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#1 Bigmoran

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:36 PM

I've been seeing a lot of Mages using this talent and I'm just curious how its working out for them. Frost Bomb damage is still good (I don't think we should lie to ourselves and say 70-100k attacks are weak) which is why I find it hard to give up. In fact, I would imagine it would be the ideal talent for killing healers (blanket, Frost Bomb, deep).

Also, has anyone tried using Fire Blase glyph with Nether Tempest?

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#2 Mitis

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

I feel like with frost bomb your only pressure is with deep, and if somehow something happens when you're going for deep you end up sitting around till it comes back up. With NT I think you can get a chain of FFB procs which can lead to FF procs and you can get some dmg going.

#3 Durotann

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:48 PM

I don't think it's so much the damage of frost bomb is completely bad, but that it requires a lot more set up to actually do damage with it, while nether tempest is just constant pressure + procs. That and frost bomb gets dispelled like 75% of the time you use it so you get 0 damage from it.

#4 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:02 PM

View PostBigmoran, on 15 December 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

Also, has anyone tried using Fire Blase glyph with Nether Tempest?
makes the dot do around 1k damage to everyone near it, so yes its very good :D

i was joking if u didn't get the sarcasm

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#5 Contrololold

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:12 PM

I could be mistaken, but im fairly certain that the AOE damage breaks CC.  I stopped using it for that reason, but maybe something else was breaking my polies.  

As for using it vs frost bomb, I haven't a clue, I haven't played frost in a couple of years.
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#6 kannetixx

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 06:36 AM

View PostContrololold, on 15 December 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

I could be mistaken, but im fairly certain that the AOE damage breaks CC.  I stopped using it for that reason, but maybe something else was breaking my polies.  

As for using it vs frost bomb, I haven't a clue, I haven't played frost in a couple of years.

hasnt broken a CC when i used it the only thing that broke CC is when i was running around spamming ice lance with glyph of ice lance
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#7 Manath

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:38 PM

i think it breaks polymorph, last night i played with 2s against ret/rogue and the rogue without trinket magically removed his polymorph. so, if it breaks cc nether tempest seems quite useless.

#8 Coldizzle

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:12 PM

now i need a fucking ridiculous set up for getting frostbombs out for doing 85k dmg

#9 Berèn

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

yea it's nice, as the FFB procs crits do more or less same damage as a bomb now
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#10 Saikx

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

Imo its really strong with RoF-setups for kills, when they remove pom-rof fire will be the only viable specc

Edited by Saikx, 16 December 2012 - 01:36 PM.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:02 PM

I like nether tempest a lot more than frost bomb. Are you guys pooling procs until you have 1-2 FoF procs with a brain freeze proc before bursting? Or are you guys just using brain freeze procs right away? I feel like brain freeze procs  come often enough to where you can just spam them. With healers actually going out of mana it seems a bit better to spam damage atm.

#12 Sagild

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:20 PM

its definitely fun to play with nether tempest and the ice lance glyph. Sick spread pressure tbh especially whenever u have a frozen orb ready..
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#13 affix

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:23 PM

NT does not break fragile CC, but glyph of ice lance does :(  unusable IMO

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:19 AM

View Postaffix, on 17 December 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

NT does not break fragile CC, but glyph of ice lance does :(  unusable IMO
Especially vs cleaves. If i manage to get a poly off I don't want it to be broken.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:18 AM

its a dumb spell lol and so op

#16 Execx

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:34 AM

idk maybe its just me but i did helllllla testing with mobs and even have it on vods of it breaking polys tons of times not even playing with lance glyph

#17 deprivelol

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:35 AM

glyph of icelance w/ nether tempest for aids


i still play w/ frostbomb, but switch to nether tempest vs a kittycleave or smth when i know im gonna get trainned

Edited by deprivelol, 18 December 2012 - 02:36 AM.


#18 StigmaticAscetic

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:35 PM

Not sure in which genre paralysis is but it definately gets broken by nether tempest. Its by far the shittiest CC in game anyway so i really dont care.

#19 Coldizzle

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

my nether tempest break rof

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:03 PM

bomb is better but takes more skill tempest is bad but its good for ppl who cant use bomb tempest only good in like enh warr hpaly teams.


btw it breaks fears in 1 tick and rof and pollys. its garbo




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