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[zzyzzyzz]

wow lately has been broken down imo into a "battle of outs"

you list the things that each healer has that allows them to continue to heal, and your best healer is the one with the most outs.


shaman -

tremor 30sec cd
trinket 2min cd
link
healing tide
ns
ascendance

pally

bubble  3min cd
trinket  
bop x2  
sac x2


druid

trinket
ns
tree 3min cd
block IF with mage

the other 2 healers have other problems and need a bigger workover for pvp but this is my general idea of why the best healers shaman and the weakest is druid. now factor in purge counters druid monk and priest pally shields/bubbles and the BEST healers a shaman, how can the best healer also counter the 4 other healer classes.

my rant for the day i guess


edit- and purge put on a cd

[Addox]

30 sec CD on tremor, what game are you playing?

[smander]

Addox, on 13 December 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

30 sec CD on tremor, what game are you playing?

clearly someone isnt using OP talent...

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108284

Edited by smander, 13 December 2012 - 07:56 PM.

[zzyzzyzz]

im just shocked that after all these seasons people are not upset about tremors current state and purge

[Amiza]

Blood Fear > Tremor tbh

[zzyzzyzz]

why does everyone assume im bias..... blood fears an awful mechanic but so is tremor......

i play healers this expac im refering to my inferior Rdruid comps to any shaman or pally comps and again i HATE blood fear and i hate that locks dont cast so why dont u stop going on EVERY topic and posting nonsense


also the notion that you would silence AND bloodfear the same target is beyond stupid. why fear and silence to do the same thing rofl?

the ONLY time silence and fear works is if u fear 2 ppl with aoe fear and silence shaman but the point is the class should not have a 30 second out for the most used cc type in the game


war priest lock

[Twocat]

I liked the part where you only list counters to fear and not counters to other CC
outside of a deep, druids are basically immune to poly/hex(non instant)/repent by using growl off-gcd shift

also didn't mention that every team just tunnels rshams start to finish now, every healer has their strengths and weaknesses(except disc priests, they just have weaknesses.) Rshams do have too many healing CDs too often, but it's hard to take any away because PvE. Reducing rsham CDs(increase NS CD, remove SWG aura mastery) and giving shamanistic rage to the whole class would be a great change towards overall less healing without losing too much self survivability(plus a huge buff to ele.)

playing against a warlock without a shaman is fucking awful, if tremor got nerfed blood fear would have to be removed

also, purge glyph should double or triple the mana cost

[Synkz]

would really like to see blood fear removed in all honesty, along with a nerf to the totemic restoration talent



haven't spent much time thinking about this and i'm tired, take it for w/e

[Natokni]

Agree tremor should be a big CD (3 mins) and blood fear should just be removed.

[zzyzzyzz]

shamans also give 3k mastery lol WHAT WHATTTTT. undispellable 3k mastery


and shamans do fine being trained and in fact i find that a druid can be far easier to kill if he doesnt have displacer then a sham and you often times have to displacer priests who disarm fear you or psyfiend

not every team tunnels rsham and if its a cleave dw cus they tunnel ALL healers start to finish

[Reirei]

they need to fix amount of CCs in game before they nerf things like tremor... and no, i dont have shaman and no, i don't play with one...and yes i hate shamans a lot