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#21 Shawir

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:54 PM

half-assed answer with six words

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#22 veGGenitc

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:59 PM

Giving that the every comp is played perfecly, no player mistakes + comp being played to its maximum potential, it'll be a total stomp or a stalemate every single game. there would be no close matches, every loss is caused by either a player mistake or the other comp is superior.

#23 Domesauce

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

I typed out a long post about the faults of this kind of thought experiment, but then I realized that feral/spriest/sham tunneling a healer just wins every game no matter what

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:18 PM

Feral/SP/sham or fdruid/enh/holypala or mw monk (since the opponents will train the healer and mw monks are probably the hardest healers to kill.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

feral/spriest/sham

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

Destro or Affliction MLD.  Assuming they could actually land the CC, I think MLD would be absolutely incredible.  Clone, blood fear, sheep obviously.  The peels are amazing, the CC is amazing, the burst potential is also really solid.  It's quite hard to answer a question like this for obvious reasons.  If everyone played perfectly, like someone previously mentioned, it would probably be some kind of a stalemate, or nothing would happen at all.  However, assuming everyone plays ALMOST flawlessly I think that MLD would do really well.  Another thing to factor in is that if they were playing perfectly, all CC would be pre-emptively avoided or negated in some way, therefore instant CC's would probably be much more valuable as they do not have to be casted, and at some point, even with everyone playing perfectly, instant CC would occur.  Maybe Feral/Lock/X?  I would say Spriest/Feral/X, but there are a million ways to stop or avoid psyfiend until it fades away, and almost infinite ways to prevent a shadow priest from running to get a fear on a healer, and obviously fear is a huge component of FPS's CC.


On a side note, this thread is making me really want to try out some feral spriest rsham, but where are all the ferals? =(

Edited by Vengeânce1296684277, 13 December 2012 - 01:51 PM.


#27 Natokni

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostVengeânce1296684277, on 13 December 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

This thread is making me really want to try out some feral spriest rsham, but where are all the ferals? =(
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#28 Execx

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:48 PM

View Postpaiku, on 13 December 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

i think most games would end into a draw

my vote is for mld simply because of rotating cc's perfectly, just talked about possibilites with isanos over skype and came to the conclusion that if the game was played perfectly nothing would ever happen.

way to many what ifs, making it unrealistic to ever think about as humans (who make mistakes).

#29 methodman2

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 01:57 PM

View PostShawir, on 13 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

half-assed answer with six words


RMP yeah dat whaddup jet life

#30 outplayedzz

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

mage/spriest/rdruid

feral/spriest/rsham

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

View PostShawir, on 13 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

half-assed answer with six words
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#32 djp771133

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

View PostShawir, on 13 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

half-assed answer with six words

Technically isn't that only 5 words?

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

Id have to give the edge to the human who programs the bot to wintrade.

#34 Z4muZ

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:34 PM

View Postkhuna, on 13 December 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

are you horny

Leave it to the french to bring up the sexual innuendo first!
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#35 Z4muZ

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

View PostGalaleo, on 13 December 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

Id have to give the edge to the human who programs the bot to wintrade.

Make sure the bot doesn't develop AI or else it'll most definitely quit.
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#36 Railander

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

View Postsaffie, on 13 December 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

I'd say sp/warr/shaman if played perfectly would never lose a game because:

a ) insane support since its sp+shaman
b ) insane pressure because its sp+warrior eventually ooming the opponent team.
this is IMO the best comp too. theres just too much defense to ever let any partner die and the offensive is also too strong with MS debuff, big bursts, fears silences hex and stuns, specially aoe stuns.

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#37 saska¨¨1296682067

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

MLS/MLD
then Feral/Hunter/Pala


shadowpriests dont even come to the equation

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

View Postsaska¨¨1296682067, on 13 December 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

MLS/MLD
then Feral/Hunter/Pala


shadowpriests dont even come to the equation

A good sp / war / shaman or sp / feral / shaman will win against a paladin jungle way more than it loses. (and chances are, those 2 setups can also fare well against other comps)

Edited by Necrolina, 13 December 2012 - 09:50 PM.


#39 Xandyn

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

View Postdjp771133, on 13 December 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

Technically isn't that only 5 words?

5 words and half of an ass

on topic, pre fire-blast glyph nerf, triple mage now triple feral yolo

Edited by Xandyn, 13 December 2012 - 09:55 PM.


#40 Bluckstack

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:53 PM

rogue sp mage or mage sp shaman/pala

Edited by Bluckstack, 13 December 2012 - 09:53 PM.





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