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#41 aldreya

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:10 AM

http://blue.mmo-cham...erf-frost-bomb/

#42 Necrolina

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:10 AM

View PostThugjitsu, on 12 December 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

3 stacks to 1 is a bit overkill in my opinion.  But this was expected, Blizzard never gets this class right.  They make warriors too strong in the beginning and then nerf them into the ground, making them almost useless in arenas by the time they are done.  They need to raise damage on mortal strike and overpower to make up for this, without three stacks I dont see warriors killing much of anything.  I 100% didnt agree with this class being able to hit for 250-300k with all those stacks up, but with the trinket nerfs and now this, they really messed this one up...

Did you really just say that you don't see warriors get kills outside of 3 stacks? Holy crap...

#43 Structural

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:10 AM

blue updated the post:

Actually, that's incorrect. Apologies for the poorly worded patch note. I've since updated the note to read:

  • When Fire Blast modified by Glyph of Fire Blast is used to detonate a Frost Bomb, the resulting Frost Bomb now deals 50% less damage.
Some hotfixes weren't quite applied when the notes were published. That happens sometimes, but this change should be in soon.

#44 Xsv

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:11 AM

When Fire Blast modified by Glyph of Fire Blast is used to detonate a Frost Bomb, the resulting Frost Bomb now deals 50% less damage.

#45 Covlol

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:12 AM

Not horrible changes, I'd rather see TFB reworked but this better than 1 shots at least.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:15 AM

View PostNecrolina, on 12 December 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

Did you really just say that you don't see warriors get kills outside of 3 stacks? Holy crap...

The cooldown stacking is still dumb, and I think warbringer is ridiculous, but without a 150-200k heroic strike in their swifty button it won't be nearly as bad.

#47 Thugjitsu

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:17 AM

View PostNecrolina, on 12 December 2012 - 03:10 AM, said:

Did you really just say that you don't see warriors get kills outside of 3 stacks? Holy crap...
Its not rocket science, try putting your bias aside and looking at it logically.

I understand it needed to be nerfed, but going from 3 to 1 PLUS the trinkets nerfs, I dont think you understand how much of a nerf in damage that really is considering our sustained damage outside of burst is mediocre at best.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:20 AM

thug. please shutup, you're coming off stupid

#49 Thugjitsu

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:24 AM

View PostXsv, on 12 December 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

thug. please shutup, you're coming off stupid

I agree that TFB needed to get nerfed, huge crits that one shotted people were dumb, and big bursts instead of higher sustained damage output is not how the class should work and Im coming off dumb?  Youre a fucking clown, stop pretending you matter nerd...

Edited by Thugjitsu, 12 December 2012 - 03:27 AM.

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#50 saffie

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:26 AM

I think the frostbomb thing might be an overnerf, I mean come on, %50? Its like they don't even think about things when they nerf them, they just blow out a number from their asses.

It should have been more like "oh yeah we have tested frost bomb and its hitting too much right now its taking this much of someones hp for  this much cast time, we have tried it out and found that on a full pvp geared character it should do this much damage in a shatter for it to be fair and worth casting", but its more like "Lets nerf frostbomb people are whining about it, how does %50 sound? Good, enough work for today, see you tomorrow."

#51 Avarencex

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:29 AM

sweet justice

we'll see the bads drop below 2200 once more

#52 khuna

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:30 AM

blizzard standard saffie, like shaman totems
at least they know what to nerf ( cause everyone tells them? ), they just don't know how LOL

#53 Avarencex

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:33 AM

you act as though shamans have fallen off the ladders,oh jk they are still fine

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:34 AM

na they are shit without a sp, ppl just didnt adapt yet

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:36 AM

View Postkhuna, on 12 December 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

na they are shit without a sp, ppl just didnt adapt yet

Oh no! For the first time since 4.0 Resto Shaman are not far and away the best healer!!!

#56 khuna

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:37 AM

cba lol

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:39 AM

View PostThugjitsu, on 12 December 2012 - 03:24 AM, said:

I agree that TFB needed to get nerfed, huge crits that one shotted people were dumb, and big bursts instead of higher sustained damage output is not how the class should work and Im coming off dumb?  Youre a fucking clown, stop pretending you matter nerd...

had to edit that insult? someone's upset

#58 Necrolina

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:43 AM

View PostThugjitsu, on 12 December 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

Its not rocket science, try putting your bias aside and looking at it logically.

I understand it needed to be nerfed, but going from 3 to 1 PLUS the trinkets nerfs, I dont think you understand how much of a nerf in damage that really is considering our sustained damage outside of burst is mediocre at best.

Oooooh, so now you will actually need some CC on the healer rather than just wait for the stacks and pop your cds. Woah, life must be tough.

edit: for you and you only, as most warriors don't really mind the nerf over the dumb oneshots

Edited by Necrolina, 12 December 2012 - 03:45 AM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:47 AM

I would have prefered a pom ring nerf over the glyph of fireblast nerf.

Mostly looking forward to cc actually breaking on damage.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 03:48 AM

i thought it was a troll because it was too good to be true. man so good to be proven wrong
http://us.battle.net...r_11-12_11_2012

also, its the resulting frost bomb that gets nerfed, not the fireblast. although if you dont use the fireblast to detonate it the dmg is still the same.

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