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#161 khuna

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

I started playing RMP recently and it seemed kinda good if you adapt your glyphs/spec to what you face :( We beat alot of kitty/sp war sham at high mmr even if werent even playing that good as a team
But every burst was lined around frostbomb pretty much, its probably going to be shit now ye

#162 Classiks

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:34 PM

Mage nerf + DR tables being looked at

Will we see the rise of a new healer overlord???? Enter paladins!

#163 Shizz

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:42 PM

View PostSnuggli, on 12 December 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

How does this really change anything for Frost mages? It won't break their class at all

The main way they score a kill is pom ring > fbomb > then shatter burst and lance spam, with a fire blast to explode the bomb

now they'll pom ring > fbomb > wait a couple seconds > shatter burst and lance spam, while bomb explodes by itself

????????? correct me if i'm wrong, i don't play a mage, but im pretty sure that's how it works

You forgot about dispell....ouside of blanket and cc for your deep swaps there will be no sustained preasure and melee cleaves will just rip mages a new A hole especially with 15% healing nerfs.  This is a Joke if you ask me.  Even if you force a dispell you only have a 2 second window to get bomb off before it can be dispelled again.

#164 Execx

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:57 PM

this change vs spriest teams is going to be mind boggling, might aswell leave arena.

#165 Coldizzle

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

its 50% on fire blast dmg is not it?
so i lost arround 20k dmg

ppl who dont get that... lulz

ok i was wrong shieeeeeeeeeet GG :mage: ;(

Edited by Coldizzle, 12 December 2012 - 05:52 PM.


#166 Vexx

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:09 PM

View PostZilea, on 12 December 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

in all honesty how can anyone complain about these changes? warriors and mages were both one-shotting. Although, to be completely fair, warriors were one-shotting every few minutes while mages were every 30 seconds.

besides my mage bias, does anyone think dying before you come out of deep freeze is good?

i think my overall ratings just went up 200-300 points from these changes o_O

im not sure if anything you say warrants a non-troll response, but ill bite

yes paladins dying in a deep freeze is stupid and yes frost bomb needed a nerf, no one argue's that.  what people are complaining about is nerfing everything around frost bomb (detonate time, deep freeze, fireblast) such that you will rarely ever see a bomb go off without stars aligning.  when was the last time you died without it involving frost bomb?  seeing as how your teams train mages into the ground 90% of games, and other 10% go for the 1 shot on a slightly undergeared healer like toez, will you ever EVER lose a game to god comp now?  going from losing most games to winning all games is a bit dramatic isnt it?  i guess we'll see over the next few days lol.

#167 Killarena

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

View PostColdizzle, on 12 December 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

its 50% on fire blast dmg is not it?
so i lost arround 20k dmg

ppl who dont get that... lulz

When Fire Blast modified by Glyph of Fire Blast is used to detonate a Frost Bomb, the resulting Frost Bomb now deals 50% less damage.

#168 Coldizzle

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:20 PM

going for haste now.
w8ing buff on frostbolt

Edited by Coldizzle, 12 December 2012 - 05:25 PM.


#169 Niezeremake

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:23 PM

View PostColdizzle, on 12 December 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

actly i just did some tests and its the frostbomb dmg reduced by 50%, going for haste now.
w8ing buff on frostbolt
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#170 Toxile

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:24 PM

This is waaaay overkill, sure frostbomb is out of control, but for those who dont quite understand and qq about frostbomb, Frostbomb is literally our ONLY source of damage atm, Outside of frostbomb our ice lances hit for 60k with all cds. Frostbolt is literally a waste of a gcd and and now frostbomb requires stupid amount of setup to even make it explode. They honestly have not thought this through a single bit. 50% is absurd. If they dont buff either frostbolt or icelance to make it worth shattering without a bomb then this change could honestly kill mages.

#171 inhume

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:25 PM

it's obvious blizzard DOESN'T want mages to consistently be able to use frost bomb for ridiculous damage. hence the deep freeze nerf and fireblast glyph nerf.

#172 Ruddx

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

Wish I could have the same problems that mages have...

Edited by Ruddx, 12 December 2012 - 05:30 PM.


#173 Coldizzle

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:29 PM

its not live i guess my dmg is the same from yesterday

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:37 PM

View PostClassiks, on 12 December 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

Mage nerf + DR tables being looked at

Will we see the rise of a new healer overlord???? Enter paladins!

With no nerfs to spriests, shamans will still be the best healer by far.

#175 duskfallx

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:39 PM

it's a good change. 50% might be much, but mages are currently the best class in the game by far, I don't see the problem. they're gonna be fine after that nerf. It's funny how biased mages can be about this change, but clearly they don't see how retardedly overpowered and forgiving their class is.
Frostbolt buff would be nice though, I agree.

Edited by duskfallx, 12 December 2012 - 05:39 PM.


#176 Coldizzle

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:39 PM

nerf fire blast instead of frostbomb is the solution lol
i do 30k fireblast remove that dmg for arroud 10k and its ok

Edited by Coldizzle, 12 December 2012 - 05:39 PM.


#177 Eazymothafukne

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:42 PM

Alright now nerf everyone elses burst damage/stackables and buff discs and then i'll be happy.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:43 PM

View PostColdizzle, on 12 December 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

nerf fire blast instead of frostbomb is the solution lol
i do 30k fireblast remove that dmg for arroud 10k and its ok
I don't know if trolling even from recent posts here.... what the fucking fuck..
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:58 PM

50% is so much just nerf the frostbomb dmg overall with 20% and the fireblast with 50% then mages are fine.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:04 PM

btw in addition to my previous post i would like it if spastic blizzard could change frostbomb aoe to NOT break your polymorph when it explodes (or any other cc for that matter like sap)it would be pretty nice, seeing how sick they are at fixing pvp these days with all the hotfixes, they have had this bug and the 2x pet nova bug live now for 2 months nearly and how can they not have learned this when making spells anyway? MAKING RANDOM SPELL THAT RANDOMLY AOES PEOPLE OUT OF CC IS NOT THE MOST BRIGHTEST IDEA, MAYBE THATS WHY NO ROGUE KEYBINDS CRIMSON TEMPEST, EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? yw

Edited by Ziqoo, 12 December 2012 - 06:08 PM.





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