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#21 inkorperated

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:05 AM

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

So? That doesn't mean it is balanced, or spriests as a whole are balanced. The problem is most likely lifeswap. But nerfing dispel magic would fix them also.
In the situation provided, MD is nowhere near overpowered. I'll save the argument on lifeswap for another day.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

You HARDLY need defensive dispells to be viable. You could take it away right now and nothing would change. The reason that they were able to keep it when it was taken from everyone else was because of the very low damage. They no longer have low damage, therefor they have no need for it.

One class shouldn't have lifeswap AND defensive dispels as a DPS.

Actually they took defensive dispel away season 9

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM

View Postdjp771133, on 11 December 2012 - 04:03 AM, said:

lol, ironic how all the spriests are saying they are fine? lol
It's hard to even get an MD off vs a decent KFC.

Edited by inkorperated, 11 December 2012 - 04:07 AM.


#24 Mity

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:08 AM

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:29 AM

View Postbcx, on 11 December 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

Actually they took defensive dispel away season 9

Someone was dropped on their head as a baby.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:43 AM

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Someone was dropped on their head as a baby.

Just sayin, most kfcs can stop a casted dispel with pushbacks. Not like its instant like it was in season 9.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:54 AM

View Postbcx, on 11 December 2012 - 04:43 AM, said:

Just sayin, most kfcs can stop a casted dispel with pushbacks. Not like its instant like it was in season 9.

lol 1800 spriest telling me i should just pummel md, good one.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:01 AM

A paladin with 3 CCs not sharing DR is complaining about spriest defensive dispel?
You won the retard title.
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#29 Regent

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:05 AM

View Postwodeta, on 11 December 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

A paladin with 3 CCs not sharing DR is complaining about spriest defensive dispel?
You won the retard title.

Blind Dr's with scatter. Repentance drs with trap. Hoj drs with shockwave.

Fear drs with?

Polymorph drs with?

Silences dr with?

All self-dr in godcomp

Since when is this a discussion about paladins? I doubt anyone thinks paladins are op, so it is irrelevant.

Generally, the class based insulting goes, "Lol, you play [fotm class], so you have no opinion" - not, "lol, you play [tied for second best healer out of 5], so you have no opinion."

Therefor, you are a resto shaman (best healer) and play with a shadowpriest (class in question), so you have no opinion.

Edited by Regent, 11 December 2012 - 05:09 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:12 AM

Is this the same paladin that got 2.4 as kfc pre bm nerf? Than wrote all over aj saying ladders should not be reset, even after the arena exploit?

#31 Regent

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:16 AM

View Postfacadezz, on 11 December 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:

Is this the same paladin that got 2.4 as kfc pre bm nerf? Than wrote all over aj saying ladders should not be reset, even after the arena exploit?

No, what I said was that they should be reset to before the exploit happened.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:24 AM

how hard is it to trap and silence the sp at the same time so he doesnt MD it. Or have ur warrior use his aoe kidney shot instead of qqing here like a retard you are.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:31 AM

View PostDeeklol, on 11 December 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

how hard is it to trap and silence the sp at the same time so he doesnt MD it. Or have ur warrior use his aoe kidney shot instead of qqing here like a retard you are.

Using CC on the spriest = less CC to use on the shaman

It is funny though, considering these would be the same priests that whined about how hunters should get nerfed, and then now they do the exact opposite when it comes their turn.

Edit: By the looks of your post history, you just go around defending shadow priests everywhere.

Edited by Regent, 11 December 2012 - 05:32 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:31 AM

It's still twice as hard to kill a shadow priest team than it is to kill anything else

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:34 AM

View Postwodeta, on 11 December 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

A paladin with 3 CCs not sharing DR is complaining about spriest defensive dispel?
You won the retard title.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:35 AM

View Postdjp771133, on 11 December 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

lol 1800 spriest telling me i should just pummel md, good one.

2200 rated warr not able to shockwave priest, good one.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:41 AM

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 02:38 AM, said:

Just played 18 games of 3s starting at 2350 mmr, 15 games had spriests, 13 had rshamans.

Spriests new fotm?

Lifeswap, Defensive dispel, offensive dispel, some of the best CCs, easily avoid ranged cc, insane burst, decent offheals

Far too much to have on a single class. They were fine before, but with nerfs to all the other classes they are dominating.

Mass dispel should be taken away, definitely.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

We went 15-4 the first week right back to 2400, then started chaining into spriests.

Its not really QQ, just something that is broken, seeing how others feel about it.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Kfc is decent. The game is getting better, but spriests will definitely need to be nerfed.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

You HARDLY need defensive dispells to be viable. You could take it away right now and nothing would change. The reason that they were able to keep it when it was taken from everyone else was because of the very low damage. They no longer have low damage, therefor they have no need for it.

One class shouldn't have lifeswap AND defensive dispels as a DPS.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

That is the worst justification I have ever heard.

"Pre-nerd stampede was balanced because druids can teleport and instant stealth it."

Doesn't work that way.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

You are saying that because there is a way to counter it, that it isn't overpowered. So I am countering and saying, since there is a way to counter pre-nerf stampede, that it was completely balanced. Your own logic at work here, buddy.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

So? That doesn't mean it is balanced, or spriests as a whole are balanced. The problem is most likely lifeswap. But nerfing dispel magic would fix them also.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Someone was dropped on their head as a baby.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 05:05 AM, said:

Blind Dr's with scatter. Repentance drs with trap. Hoj drs with shockwave.

Fear drs with?

Polymorph drs with?

Silences dr with?

All self-dr in godcomp

Since when is this a discussion about paladins? I doubt anyone thinks paladins are op, so it is irrelevant.

Generally, the class based insulting goes, "Lol, you play [fotm class], so you have no opinion" - not, "lol, you play [tied for second best healer out of 5], so you have no opinion."

Therefor, you are a resto shaman (best healer) and play with a shadowpriest (class in question), so you have no opinion.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 05:16 AM, said:

No, what I said was that they should be reset to before the exploit happened.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Using CC on the spriest = less CC to use on the shaman

It is funny though, considering these would be the same priests that whined about how hunters should get nerfed, and then now they do the exact opposite when it comes their turn.

Edit: By the looks of your post history, you just go around defending shadow priests everywhere.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:43 AM

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 02:38 AM, said:

Just played 18 games of 3s starting at 2350 mmr, 15 games had spriests, 13 had rshamans.

Spriests new fotm?

Lifeswap, Defensive dispel, offensive dispel, some of the best CCs, easily avoid ranged cc, insane burst, decent offheals

Far too much to have on a single class. They were fine before, but with nerfs to all the other classes they are dominating.

Mass dispel should be taken away, definitely.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

We went 15-4 the first week right back to 2400, then started chaining into spriests.

Its not really QQ, just something that is broken, seeing how others feel about it.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Kfc is decent. The game is getting better, but spriests will definitely need to be nerfed.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

You HARDLY need defensive dispells to be viable. You could take it away right now and nothing would change. The reason that they were able to keep it when it was taken from everyone else was because of the very low damage. They no longer have low damage, therefor they have no need for it.

One class shouldn't have lifeswap AND defensive dispels as a DPS.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

That is the worst justification I have ever heard.

"Pre-nerd stampede was balanced because druids can teleport and instant stealth it."

Doesn't work that way.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:42 AM, said:

You are saying that because there is a way to counter it, that it isn't overpowered. So I am countering and saying, since there is a way to counter pre-nerf stampede, that it was completely balanced. Your own logic at work here, buddy.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

So? That doesn't mean it is balanced, or spriests as a whole are balanced. The problem is most likely lifeswap. But nerfing dispel magic would fix them also.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Someone was dropped on their head as a baby.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 05:05 AM, said:

Blind Dr's with scatter. Repentance drs with trap. Hoj drs with shockwave.

Fear drs with?

Polymorph drs with?

Silences dr with?

All self-dr in godcomp

Since when is this a discussion about paladins? I doubt anyone thinks paladins are op, so it is irrelevant.

Generally, the class based insulting goes, "Lol, you play [fotm class], so you have no opinion" - not, "lol, you play [tied for second best healer out of 5], so you have no opinion."

Therefor, you are a resto shaman (best healer) and play with a shadowpriest (class in question), so you have no opinion.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 05:16 AM, said:

No, what I said was that they should be reset to before the exploit happened.

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Using CC on the spriest = less CC to use on the shaman

It is funny though, considering these would be the same priests that whined about how hunters should get nerfed, and then now they do the exact opposite when it comes their turn.

Edit: By the looks of your post history, you just go around defending shadow priests everywhere.
You got 2.4k because of a stampede bug... Maybe instead of complaining about classes, get some lessons from butdome and coonzilla they seem to do very well as kfc. You don't need cc to win a game, You can just win from raw damage

BTW You were never near 2.4k again, You were 15-4 at mid 2200s lol

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Edited by Slipnslidejr, 11 December 2012 - 05:49 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:15 AM

View PostRegent, on 11 December 2012 - 02:38 AM, said:

13 had rshamans.

Spriests new fotm? some of the best CCs, insane burst,
Mass dispel should be taken away, definitely.

View PostGrieverZ, on 11 December 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

Posting class balance issues on these boards is completly pointless, sooner you realise that less you'll be hated, as everyone is completly biased and will never admit anything is wrong with their class.

This is the new thing on AJ, every time someone makes a bullshit post and gets called out for it, it's blamed on people being biased or elitist.
Coincidentally two people spamming this thread are a warrior and a paladin that got their life time first access beginning of the expansion. I am strongly against elitism but in this example it shows that there is a reason why stuff demonstrating such shallow understanding of the game comes from such people.

How does spriest have the best cc in the game? The pet is fearable by palas, one class is practically immune to fear, druids can typhoon / displacer so a psychic scream is almost never landed, totemic restoration makes priest fear a complete joke. If you wanna talk about best cc in the game, you need to refer to mages, feral druids, hell even holy paladins when u get cc'd into oblivion once u get hojed into rep into blind.


Insane burst? I was testing for the lols a couple of days ago full pvp power gems, I am doing 90k crit devouring plague with trinket up, note that if you reforge full to crit, u get around %10 chance to crit That translates to warrior shockwave, heroic leap with cds up or single mage icelance.

The shadowpriest support is absolutely necessary, actually that's the reason why drooling tunnelvision monkeys in this thread are upset with the spec because they can't spam unhealable damage and win arena when there is a shadowpriest.

Sure, when the burst is tuned down and severely broken classes are fixed, shadowpriests should be nerfed, but not in this state of the game and not with the 13 sec cd, 40k mana massdispel lol.

Edited by Djandawg, 11 December 2012 - 06:20 AM.


#40 Regent

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:18 AM

View PostSlipnslidejr, on 11 December 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

You got 2.4k because of a stampede bug... Maybe instead of complaining about classes, get some lessons from butdome and coonzilla they seem to do very well as kfc. You don't need cc to win a game, You can just win from raw damage

BTW You were never near 2.4k again, You were 15-4 at mid 2200s lol

They don't do well at kfc, no one is "doing well", everyone dropped their hunter and got either a feral, mage, spriest, or enh. We started playing tonight at 2375 mmr, and at the end of the night we had over 85 percent of games with spriest in them.


View PostDjandawg, on 11 December 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

Coincidentally two people spamming this thread are a warrior and a paladin that got their life time first access beginning of the expansion with bugged hunter etc.

Good one! Its funny because you can't read dates!

Every shadow priest in this thread is literally every hunter 2 months ago. Welcome to hypocrisy at its finest.

Edited by Regent, 11 December 2012 - 06:25 AM.





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