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#21 Braindance

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:00 PM

I would prefer power and you know why? Because when everyone gems resilience at the end of the day they will do less damage to you because of lower pvp power while you still have more pvp power (and gemming resilience is so s2 and I don't want to hit for 10% of a health pool every 6 seconds)

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

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bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#22 Superkåre

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

View PostNisslol, on 08 December 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

How so? Rather opposite, as I mentioned, there is probably something you could've done to make the match go into your favour, so you work on that and improve, what's "holding you back" here?

Sure you could always just play bette. I completely agree that you should always try to play better, but that doesn't excuse your not caring about gearing properly, as you'll be at a disadvantage against people who do bother gearing and gemming properly. If, however, you choose to both play better and gear better, you'll be far better off than otherwise.

Gear does change the course of matches. There's a huge difference in survivability when you're fully resilience gemmed compared to PvP power, which makes healing the game easier for the healer so that he can either go more offensive or keep up his mana much longer.

#23 Wallirik

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:27 PM

tested how much less dmg i'd actually do on somebody with full offensive gems vs full defensive gems.
chaos bolt went from 95k dmg with no cds, to 76k dmg with no cds.
that's quite a massive decrease in dmg from just changing gems from offensive to resi.

didn't seem to have any trouble killing shit when i gemmed full resilience myself, so i just kept it as well.

personally i think it's more fun doing 100-0 in a stun though than being more tanky.

#24 Coldizzle

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:36 PM

I had come to a very good conclusion, but I forgot what was the conclussion ;O
but the way ppl are looking at resi VS pvppower looks like they are doing gear for duels

its situational just like van said

#25 Rylezlol

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 05:54 PM

most of the eu top teams are playing with resilience. get your facts straight

Edited by Rylezlol, 08 December 2012 - 07:07 PM.


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Posted 08 December 2012 - 06:24 PM

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

View PostBraindance, on 08 December 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

I would prefer power and you know why? Because when everyone gems resilience at the end of the day they will do less damage to you because of lower pvp power while you still have more pvp power (and gemming resilience is so s2 and I don't want to hit for 10% of a health pool every 6 seconds)

Yeah, but the guys gemming resilience will do more damage than you toe to toe.

#28 Braindance

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

View PostGunnyqt, on 08 December 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

Yeah, but the guys gemming resilience will do more damage than you toe to toe.
Depends - you sacrifice too much power for res if you count in all the gems. it's almost like having an additional weapon ^^

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:31 PM

cause us teams are better at doing dmg so they dont need damage gems. US>EU

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

View PostSnackumz, on 08 December 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

cause us teams are better at doing dmg so they dont need damage gems. US>EU
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

Because US players enjoy the more casual playstyle which comes from the relaxed full resilience gemming, you might even take a hamburger during the game since nobody is going to kill you during those 2 seconds it takes an average American to eat that burger. EU players are more brainhurt because they like to be butthurt and go to forums and cry about trivial things such as when dying in global is no more fun (but they all agree killing somebody in global is fun and that shouldnt be affected).

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:11 PM

View PostSnackumz, on 08 December 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

cause us teams are better at doing dmg so they dont need damage gems. US>EU

i think its cos us teams dont know how to peel properly

eu teams = control dont need resi gems cya

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostPolizei, on 08 December 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

Because US players enjoy the more casual playstyle which comes from the relaxed full resilience gemming, you might even take a hamburger during the game since nobody is going to kill you during those 2 seconds it takes an average American to eat that burger. EU players are more brainhurt because they like to be butthurt and go to forums and cry about trivial things such as when dying in global is no more fun (but they all agree killing somebody in global is fun and that shouldnt be affected).

Cultural difference - EXPLAINED!

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:46 PM

View PostPolizei, on 08 December 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

even take a hamburger during the game since nobody is going to kill you during those 2 seconds it takes an average American to eat that burger.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:28 AM

67% pvp resil in blood presence still dead in 2 seconds



DKs suck.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 12:14 PM

View PostPhillol, on 09 December 2012 - 10:28 AM, said:

67% pvp resil in blood presence still dead in 2 seconds



DKs suck.

Resil will fix it.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:09 AM

View PostSuperkåre, on 08 December 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Sure you could always just play bette. I completely agree that you should always try to play better, but that doesn't excuse your not caring about gearing properly, as you'll be at a disadvantage against people who do bother gearing and gemming properly. If, however, you choose to both play better and gear better, you'll be far better off than otherwise.

Gear does change the course of matches. There's a huge difference in survivability when you're fully resilience gemmed compared to PvP power, which makes healing the game easier for the healer so that he can either go more offensive or keep up his mana much longer.

I'd agree if the numbers were slightly more noticable. But you won't notice almost any difference in numbers between full pvp power gemming and gear with no gems whatsoever (not even the subpar ones), the randomness factor of x to y damage still will have more impact than the gems.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:59 PM

please stop grouping canadians with the US plzz ty

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

And here comes an answer for you, OP:
Since LSD2 gamestyle is to survive long enough to oom the ennemy healer (that's how I see it), I would recommend you to gem full resilience.
If you're playing it like getting a kill with burst and CC, maybe PVP power can be better.
But I really think that resilience is the way to go cause it will avoid you at least 2/3 1-shoot which are really making everyone mad when it happens.




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