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#1 DkH.ZeRa

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:04 PM

this thread is only for destro at RBG.

after browsing older threads on AJ there are several opinions about destros secondary stat at RBG. i also checked 15 warlocks at armory which are around 2400 lr.

most destro go for mastery over crit. some destro stack 10% haste.


found this in an other thread: critical strike gives 2 very important benefits apart from increasing your damage by critting more -> it significantly helps generating Burning Embers (they're the bread and butter for destruction warlocks, since u need them to deal big burst or to stay alive with Ember Tap) and increases Chaos Bolt damage. But: A common misconception is that crit affects Chaos Bolt damage more than anything else. This is false - mastery is the best stat for highest Chaos Bolt crits - crit actually has a pretty poor conversion with 1% crit = 1% extra Chaos Bolt damage.
But does anyone know how much mastery is needed for 1% extra Chaos Bolt dmg?

Mastery increases your fire spells damage by a little bit and increases significantly the effectiveness of Chaos Bolt, Shadowburn and Ember Tap. I want to remark the importance of Ember Tap, it's an awesome spell with NO cooldown, instantly healing u for +20% of your total health (depending on your mastery), which can be combined with Dark Regeneration, Healthstone, Fel Armor passive, Last stand from Void Sacrifice.

Haste sucks, only increases your mana regen + more dmg from immolate and a little bit speedcasting.


so what do you think about destruction at RBG? mastery > crit > haste ? and why do people stack 10% haste as destro?



2nd part -> glyphes:

1. burning ember is a must have as destro at RBG. with rain of fire the gaining of embers in 10vs10 is godlike.

2. healthstone are using 85% of the WLs i checked. it doubles the heal whats nice in a 1on1, 2on2, 3on3 situation at RBG. but its heal over time what could be a little problem with burst dmg in some situations. for example 9vs9 at waterworks..

3. conflagrate is great at flag BGs to slow the carry and at silvershard mine. you can switch conflagrate at temple, ads or arathi for siphon life.

4. siphon life gives an acceptable extra heal in 10vs10. its like 10k hp over time for every immolate. probleme here: its an heal over time vs most teams dealing heavy burst dmg.

5. dark soul gives you 3% more crit - but only if dark soul is ready. so its 3% more dmg for a few chaos bolt. it also reduces your crit by activating dark soul from 30% to 27% for 20 seconds. not a big deal at all.


which major glpyhs would you pick?

Edited by DkH.ZeRa, 06 December 2012 - 06:08 PM.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:20 PM

View PostDkH.ZeRa, on 06 December 2012 - 01:04 PM, said:

so what do you think about destruction at RBG? mastery > crit > haste ? and why do people stack 10% haste as destro?
chaos bolts did significantly more damage with mastery>crit when i tested it, so i think that's best - i have yet to actually not have high enough ember regen tbh.

some people go for 10% haste because they're horny as fuck for "extra dot tick" which is useless to no end (i get it if they wanna cast faster, suit yourself - but "extra tick" is so unbelievably bad, a lot worse for immolate especially, compared to certain other dots)

edit: about the glyphs
personally i don't like healthstone glyph for anything, you can't use it as an "oh shit" button if you're low, as you'll likely be executed and die.

secondly, dark soul glyph would be ok if the 3% crit wasn't disabled while dark soul is on cooldown, but since it is i think it's instantly awful.

ember/conflag/portal is what i use for everything pretty much, but most others seem to prefer HS glyph.

Edited by Wallirik, 06 December 2012 - 01:26 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

View PostWallirik, on 06 December 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

i have yet to actually not have high enough ember regen tbh.

i try'd full crit last weeks and was playing with 20% crit when dark soul was ready. it feels great to generate burning embers. rain of fire crits often, conflag, felflame.. burning ember regen is nice, but my overall dmg is not high enough with full crit.

View PostWallirik, on 06 December 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

secondly, dark soul glyph would be ok if the 3% crit wasn't disabled while dark soul is on cooldown, but since it is i think it's instantly awful.

good to know. thanks. =)
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