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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:02 PM

Why they dont implement critical dmg reduction on resilence instead of destroying classes? No1 gets globalled by non crits...

This game is 2 much RNG and crit dmg reduction will be a good start...

what do you guys think? Mages would cry to much?

#82 Methacus

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:02 PM

Also looking for a free soulshard whenever you dispell a UA

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:37 PM

I think people are overreacting, 33% less dmg well, I was doing fine without gosac in 3s, just use gosac and you have same dmg than before so basically you lose 15% mortal strike and a bit more pet dmg. Doom still hits like a brick. I kept applying aura as well, mages won't steal try and steal them 24/7 now with more manacost and you still have the knockback and leap which are gold abilities for both arena and rbg

most of the chaos waves were overkill dmg anyway hehe

#84 Snoopdot

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:42 PM

Rip warlock :'(

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:48 PM

View PostCanadianpimp_613638, on 04 December 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

The reason Affliction is sucking atm isn't because the spec is broken. It's sucking right now because of the same reason Boomkins and Fire Mages are garbage right now, that being multi target pressure and 10 second burst isn't viable because of the nature of CC, healing, and defensive CD's in game right now. Healing and CC would be the biggest offenders.

Healing is over the top and getting the entire team to 30% health isn't even close to a kill anymore. One Healing Stream totem with a Riptide and 2 GHW's and the ENTIRE team is topped off. Healers don't stay OOM since spirit has been buffed as a stat. In a raid environment the change to Intellect and Spirit works out because healers are almost always casting, so the smaller mana pools need to regen faster. In Arenas though, getting a break of a few seconds isn't that rare with the way CC works right now. Mana regen is through the roof and keeping a healer OOM is nearly impossible.

CC is the other problem. Affliction has burst now, but it takes more than the 3-4 second burst windows that are needed to kill something now. On top of that, you need to be casting the whole time. In that time frame, you are almost 100% guaranteed to be peeled.

The only way to "fix" Aff (because it's top in PvE atm) would be to take all our damage away from DoTs and put it towards Haunt and MG. If they nerf healing output we'll actually be able to rot teams again which would put Affliction in a great position.
how come in wotlk affli was good specc and the aoe pressure wasnt high?go figure retard

#86 Smir

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:56 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 04 December 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

how come in wotlk affli was good specc and the aoe pressure wasnt high?go figure retard

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:19 PM

I play a mage in my mls and this nerf isnt really a big concern to us. It just means that my lock has swtiched over to destro which has a lot more consistent damage, more than the nerfed chaos waves. We've already made a 2350 feral spriest shaman team rage, disband and add eachother to ignore with chaos bolts LOL.

#88 Saafine

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

Just please remove Blood Fear...

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

Well obvious Chaos Wave needed a change, problem with affli is the same problem with restodruids if you buff them little too much they get fast out of balance. DoT's and HoT's probly aint so easy to balance.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:30 PM

View PostYarmyxx, on 04 December 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

how come in wotlk affli was good specc and the aoe pressure wasnt high?go figure retard

Haha best troll I have seen all day, good one.

Owait you are prolly just a retard.

Affliction has never had as much pressure as it did in WotlK, go play on AT if you don't believe me.

Edited by Stigz, 04 December 2012 - 01:31 PM.

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63% Resilience, Destro is hard?

#91 Mirionx

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:35 PM

View PostStigz, on 04 December 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

Affliction has never had as much pressure as it did in WotlK, go play on AT if you don't believe me.

You do know they've changed the game on AT, it's not like it was in Wrath..

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

View PostCanadianpimp_613638, on 04 December 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:

The reason Affliction is sucking atm isn't because the spec is broken. It's sucking right now because of the same reason Boomkins and Fire Mages are garbage right now, that being multi target pressure and 10 second burst isn't viable because of the nature of CC, healing, and defensive CD's in game right now. Healing and CC would be the biggest offenders.
Firemage is actually decent it does the same damage as Frost if not more with CDS up can kill people easily in deep freezes without even casting a single spell, just spamming instant pyros.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

Nice nerf, the burst demo locks had was just over the top. But I do think it is really ridicilous how shadowpriests are flying under the radar. I don't really see any nerfs to them even though I think they are one of, if not, the strongest class right now, maybe not burst wise but their sustained damage is very high and they have too many defensive abilities to save their teammates with compared to other classes.

#94 methodman2

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:40 PM

View PostNiezeremake, on 04 December 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

Firemage is actually decent it does the same damage as Frost if not more with CDS up can kill people easily in deep freezes without even casting a single spell, just spamming instant pyros.

jk dispel deep and fire mages do 0 dmg

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

View PostDubsget, on 04 December 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

I think people are overreacting, 33% less dmg well, I was doing fine without gosac in 3s, just use gosac and you have same dmg than before so basically you lose 15% mortal strike and a bit more pet dmg. Doom still hits like a brick. I kept applying aura as well, mages won't steal try and steal them 24/7 now with more manacost and you still have the knockback and leap which are gold abilities for both arena and rbg

most of the chaos waves were overkill dmg anyway hehe

Really ? I tried it in a duel vs a normal geared paladin, both chaos waves did 27500 damage. That is with demon soul, on use trinket, pvp trinket proc and jade spirit up. No sac though, but that damage isn't going to kill anyone. Touch of Chaos does more damage now and isn't horribly bugged.

Edit: Best case scenario: 27500 * 1,50 (sac) * 2,03 (crit) = 83737 max damage. With that 1 % chance to double crit you get a whopping 167k dmg. Jk LoS'd it, 0 dmg.

Edited by oiml, 04 December 2012 - 02:50 PM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:42 PM

View PostBurtthemage, on 04 December 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

I play a mage in my mls and this nerf isnt really a big concern to us. It just means that my lock has swtiched over to destro which has a lot more consistent damage, more than the nerfed chaos waves. We've already made a 2350 feral spriest shaman team rage, disband and add eachother to ignore with chaos bolts LOL.
I crit 90k with chaos bolt now with all cd's up, yup gna make dem ppl r4g3

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:46 PM

Feed me your tears pls

Edited by Jinngofagswag, 04 December 2012 - 05:19 PM.


#98 Carajo

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:00 PM

I heard destro is op

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

View PostMirionx, on 04 December 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

You do know they've changed the game on AT, it's not like it was in Wrath..

Nope, they haven't. Only damage nerfs to retarded comps like LSD, ATC etc.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

View PostCarajo, on 04 December 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

cute ^^
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