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#21 Saru93

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:55 PM

yep dks totally needed that........................

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:57 PM

View PostQan, on 30 November 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

I hopped on to test it and its the same just seems buffed cause of the pvp power buff. My tool tip says 32k unbuffed on the target it went on for 39k.

Yeah, now it scales with pvp power, pre patch it didnt. Thats the buff. They changed scaling and thats why the 90k absorbs are possible.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostEmuu, on 30 November 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

Yeah, now it scales with pvp power, pre patch it didnt. Thats the buff. They changed scaling and thats why the 90k absorbs are possible.

pre 5.1 it also scaled with pvp power. I said i tested it on TR. 30419 on the tooltip but on the target 34602 absorbs. So 4kish from pvp power.

#24 Emuu

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:17 PM

If thats the case im really upset, was geming strength half the season. Anyway, something changed because my stupid amount of heal absorb with procs are still real.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:53 PM

So now for a comp like TSG, what's looking better? Frost or going unholy and spamming necros. Obliterate is hitting like a truck atm with the 498 weapons, so I'm not really sure

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostVigorouz, on 30 November 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

So now for a comp like TSG, what's looking better? Frost or going unholy and spamming necros. Obliterate is hitting like a truck atm with the 498 weapons, so I'm not really sure

Unholy for sure, more pressure, survival & mobility, you can beak your healers sheep, blind, traps etc with unholy frenzy... it lacks burst though what isnt really needed with a warrior backing you up. There is no real choice anymore if you ask me. Go Unholy.

Edited by Emuu, 30 November 2012 - 04:05 PM.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostEmuu, on 30 November 2012 - 02:32 PM, said:

The higher absorb only works on player targets, just applied a 90k absorb with 1 strike on a full geared shaman. Thats a fact.

Like I said it always scaled with pvp power and it doesn't ignore res. With both trinkets up and fallen crusader on 61% res target I get 75k absorb. Ns always scaled really good, that's the reason you see these numbers. Also battle fatigue is what makes it really good right now.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:42 PM

View PostEmuu, on 30 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Unholy for sure, more pressure, survival & mobility, you can beak your healers sheep, blind, traps etc with unholy frenzy... it lacks burst though what isnt really needed with a warrior backing you up. There is no real choice anymore if you ask me. Go Unholy.

With so much burst, it looks like UH still isn't best choice. Usually when door of arena opens many just pop their cool downs in first 10 sec, at least frost has an option to out damage opponents but UH doesn't.

DId you play this week games in UH ?

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:46 PM

i would say frost, atleast for mage dk rsham (what i play) tried both, but probaly havent played enough games to judge ^^

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:01 PM

View Posta1entity, on 30 November 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:

With so much burst, it looks like UH still isn't best choice. Usually when door of arena opens many just pop their cool downs in first 10 sec, at least frost has an option to out damage opponents but UH doesn't.

DId you play this week games in UH ?

played all games in unholy

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:05 PM

View PostEmuu, on 30 November 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

played all games in unholy
So how do you deal with burst openers of for example KFC when they pop cooldowns once hey can touch one of you ? Also at the end do you match what is damage % between you and your warrior ?

In frost now i do at least 50 % more of damage than my war, in longer games i do double.

Edited by a1entity, 30 November 2012 - 05:15 PM.


#32 Emuu

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

View Posta1entity, on 30 November 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

So how do you deal with burst openers of for example KFC when they pop cooldowns once hey can touch one of you ? Also at the end do you match warrior damage or you out dps him?

I out damage everything because of spreading tripper. Against cleave teams i always start in blood presence and for countering burst there is hand of protection. Against mages just try to destroy their opener, then they are not that much of a problem. You should definatly try unholy out.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:18 PM

View PostEmuu, on 30 November 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

I out damage everything because of spreading tripper. Against cleave teams i always start in blood presence and for countering burst there is hand of protection. Against mages just try to destroy their opener, then they are not that much of a problem. You should definatly try unholy out.
Convinced mate thanks will do it this Saturday.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:12 PM

I'm a fully geared DK with 60.42% pvp power, 13.3k str. My necro only shows 29k tooltip, and does 31k on fully geared targets, 58k with everything procced.

This is postpatch

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

View Postaraqarne, on 30 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

I'm a fully geared DK with 60.42% pvp power, 13.3k str. My necro only shows 29k tooltip, and does 31k on fully geared targets, 58k with everything procced.

This is postpatch

& again, tested it. With fallen crusader, on use and random proc trinket i got 80k~ on my pala mate. Your numbers sound like pre patch honestly. Am i the only one with such high necrotics?

Edited by Emuu, 30 November 2012 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 08:48 PM

View Postaraqarne, on 30 November 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

I'm a fully geared DK with 60.42% pvp power, 13.3k str. My necro only shows 29k tooltip, and does 31k on fully geared targets, 58k with everything procced.

This is postpatch

Are you playing as UH in 3s as well ?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:55 AM

I play 80% of my 3v3s AS unholy, 20% as frost. Personal preference, nothing to do with the comp we are facing.

The perks of both unholy and frost are so equal that I honestly cant say which one is better overall.

Edited by araqarne, 01 December 2012 - 05:09 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

View Posta1entity, on 30 November 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Are you playing as UH in 3s as well ?
Yes he is ! And he just tanked me(feral) and my warriors full burst without popping any cooldowns !
INSANE

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostViindz, on 30 November 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

U never played vs a rly good TSG, have you? The games are intensive. Your teammates need peels and heals 24/7.
One game my druid got gibbed by a dk in 2sec, just dk dmg...

It was 5 seconds on my screen. Dont over exaggerate please.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:30 PM

View PostGynus_6163607, on 03 December 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

Yes he is ! And he just tanked me(feral) and my warriors full burst without popping any cooldowns !
INSANE

Cuz i use my Hand of Sac & healing cooldowns to keep him up + i was never cc'd or only once.

Mfg Healpaly lul




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