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#1 Ermurazorqt

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:43 PM

Yes there are some good changes like Gag order nerf but so many needed changes lacking.

- Chaos wave one shot nerf?
- Blood fear?
- Frost bomb damage?
- Shadow priest healing?
- Tremor totem?
- Double purge?

+ disc buff?
+ affliction buff?
+ MM buffs for hunters?
+ Elemental survivability buff?
+ Rogue buffs?
+ Monk buffs?
+ Moonkin damage buff?

Both these lists could go on forever most likely but the main point is that i'm dissapointed that they have had such a long time to see what is unbalanced and what need buff and yet delivered so few changes. I can't believe there aren't more disc priest buffs as well as Chaos wave nerf? Blizzard had to be watching blizzcon as well with Demo locks doing nothing then suddenly one shotting with cd's? Or is that the kind of gameplay blizzard wants us to play?

Is anyone else as dissapointed as I am over the lack of changes with the amount of time and feedback they have recieved?

#2 inkorperated

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

disappointed indeed

edit: i also hate the gear upgrade system they're implementing. never going to be able to gear for disc.

Edited by inkorperated, 27 November 2012 - 01:16 PM.


#3 Trenzix23

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:39 PM

I'm pretty sure all hybrid specs including spriests are getting a healing nerf due to pvp power not increasing their heals in 5.1

Also I'd just give up on trying to get anywhere with an ele sham after these totem nerfs lol it just seems like another nail in the coffin for them

Edited by Trenzix23, 27 November 2012 - 01:49 PM.


#4 Mistyflip

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:00 PM

they aren't nerfing taste for blood either...

Edited by Mistyflip, 27 November 2012 - 02:01 PM.

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#5 Snuggli

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostMistyflip, on 27 November 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

they aren't nerfing taste for blood either...

nah it's super duper rare so no reason to nerf it cause it never happens and when it does it's balanced cause it doesnt happen all the other times #yoloswag

View PostBraindance, on 11 October 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Go listen to some Bieber shit and leave me alone fucko.

#6 Tristràn

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

View PostSnuggli, on 27 November 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

nah it's super duper rare so no reason to nerf it cause it never happens and when it does it's balanced cause it doesnt happen all the other times #yoloswag

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#7 Rylezlol

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:43 PM

Is the new mmr system coming now in 5.1?!!!

#8 Regent

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

View PostRylezlol, on 27 November 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

Is the new mmr system coming now in 5.1?!!!

No.

View Postinkorperated, on 27 November 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

i also hate the gear upgrade system they're implementing. never going to be able to gear for disc.

This, and not nerfing Spriests are my biggest problems so far.

#9 Draakex

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:05 PM

View PostRegent, on 27 November 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

and not nerfing Spriests are my biggest problems so far.
offhealing got nerfed, if i remember correctly
don't see anything else wrong with spriests

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#10 Braindance

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:06 PM

How it "didn't' deliver when you haven't even played it yet?..

View PostZerstiren, on 14 August 2011 - 01:21 AM, said:

If you haven't +repped this guy, you are part of the problem.

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#11 Bootzx

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

I love how they said rogue mobility was an issue and the only major change was blind CD being reduced.

#12 Sherpdawerp

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:59 PM

View PostSnuggli, on 27 November 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

nah it's super duper rare so no reason to nerf it cause it never happens and when it does it's balanced cause it doesnt happen all the other times #yoloswag

i think i like you

#13 Phillol

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:00 PM




patch 5.1 will own

#14 Toxile

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

View PostErmurazorqt, on 27 November 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

+ Moonkin damage buff?




Have you even played a moonkin in arena?

#15 Ermurazorqt

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:36 PM

View PostToxile, on 27 November 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Have you even played a moonkin in arena?

No I havn't but I know both a gladiator exp'd moonkin and 2.7k exp'd moonkin saying they are far from fine as well as i've played with one. Also they are low represented and I have met moonkins in arena. Their damage outside of CD's is non-existant and even their cd's are easy to counter unlike demo lock burst or warrior burst.

Moonkins dots are easily outhealed by one rejuvenation and the only real damage you can do is wait for starsurge procc and then pop cd's for maybe some damage. That doesn't happen often since it has to crit.

If you feel they are fine please give some evidence of that.

#16 affix

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

View PostTrenzix23, on 27 November 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure all hybrid specs including spriests are getting a healing nerf due to pvp power not increasing their heals in 5.1
They talked about that but never did it.

#17 Miluu

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:51 PM

moonkin dmg is insane, in my opinion some of these things should be changed also:

feral,rogue surviveabilty?
hpally buff against getting killed in every deep?
rogue mobility
dk utility+surviveability and frost dk dmg nerf
warrior dmg nerf->make tfb something like rage reduce on heroic strike?


Im not sure about disc, since they're going to buff mana reg and the aegis, did they get anything else like a dmg reduction on armor or something like that?

#18 Kushi

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:06 PM

I feel like this video covers everything that DIDN'T happen and SHOULD have happened pretty well...
I believe that a fun sarcastic way is the only one we can take at times like this.

Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt...

ME!


#19 Toxile

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostErmurazorqt, on 27 November 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

No I havn't but I know both a gladiator exp'd moonkin and 2.7k exp'd moonkin saying they are far from fine as well as i've played with one. Also they are low represented and I have met moonkins in arena. Their damage outside of CD's is non-existant and even their cd's are easy to counter unlike demo lock burst or warrior burst.

Moonkins dots are easily outhealed by one rejuvenation and the only real damage you can do is wait for starsurge procc and then pop cd's for maybe some damage. That doesn't happen often since it has to crit.

If you feel they are fine please give some evidence of that.

Sorry but moonkin damage is not easy to counter like demo locks, what are you talking about? Demo locks damage can be dispelled, Moonkins damage can not. Moonkins have changed from the way people use to play them thats all, They are less of a dot class and more of a single target class now thats all. Their damage is still fine

#20 Kriff

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

View PostToxile, on 27 November 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Sorry but moonkin damage is not easy to counter like demo locks, what are you talking about? Demo locks damage can be dispelled, Moonkins damage can not. Moonkins have changed from the way people use to play them thats all, They are less of a dot class and more of a single target class now thats all. Their damage is still fine

Can't be dispelled anymore, gg.




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