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#21 Nez

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

TfB in PvP is very rare. However, bc it's so rare, nerfing it would have little balance impact but might stop flashy videos.

Edited by Nez, 26 November 2012 - 12:34 PM.


#22 Regent

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:37 PM

I don't see why everyone is hating on the video? He clearly out CC'ed and out coordinated the other team....?

#23 Krigoz

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

View PostRegent, on 26 November 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

I don't see why everyone is hating on the video? He clearly out CC'ed and out coordinated the other team....?

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:47 AM

Veevs pally dying in half of a deep freeze is fine but van and veev poping ALL their CD's to kill a druid is the same time is broken.....I don't understand people on this forum

Edited by frigidclam, 27 November 2012 - 03:47 AM.


#25 sikemu

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

waiting for someone to point this out^

#26 Pritchard

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

View Postfrigidclam, on 27 November 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

Veevs pally dying in half of a deep freeze is fine but van and veev poping ALL their CD's to kill a druid is the same time is broken.....I don't understand people on this forum


i can't tell if you are being serious or not....  veev hits him for a near 300k crit with ONE spell, vs several spells being hit into the deep freeze.


and no one is saying frost bomb or any damage is fine...but killing someone in literally one attack from what..80-90%? is definitely pretty hilarious....




doesn't happen in pet battles

#27 Regent

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:20 AM

View Posthairpiece, on 27 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

i can't tell if you are being serious or not....  veev hits him for a near 300k crit with ONE spell, vs several spells being hit into the deep freeze.


and no one is saying frost bomb or any damage is fine...but killing someone in literally one attack from what..80-90%? is definitely pretty hilarious....




doesn't happen in pet battles

Deep freeze cd = 30 seconds

Chances of getting TFB stacks and the stars aligning?

All of it needs to be nerfed.

#28 Pritchard

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:22 AM

it doesnt matter if the chances of it are 0.0000001% you shouldn't be able to hit someone for 300k ever.  you shouldn't even be able to hit for 75k


also, he got 2 5 stacks that game...the stars seemed to align quite fine.


if you have buffs up to stick to your targets aka freedom 5 stacks are not as rare as people make them out to be.  playing with a pally on my alt warrior i get 5 stacks quite a bit...and considering 3 stack tfb with cd's up is enough to turn a game, 5 stack is just silly.



either way, game will keep being shit until they make pvp into a wounded gameplay type, so its worthless to even discuss.  burst damage to high across the board, healing too high to counteract dumb burst, sustained damage is shit. zzzzzzzzzzz

#29 Rhetorical1

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:24 AM

View Posthairpiece, on 27 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

i can't tell if you are being serious or not....  veev hits him for a near 300k crit with ONE spell, vs several spells being hit into the deep freeze.


and no one is saying frost bomb or any damage is fine...but killing someone in literally one attack from what..80-90%? is definitely pretty hilarious....




doesn't happen in pet battles

i guess you dont have a dung beetle pet do you? noob

#30 Pritchard

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:28 AM

View PostRhetorical1, on 27 November 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:

i guess you dont have a dung beetle pet do you? noob

no :(  its ok tho if something is op in pet battles that shit gets fixed quick!

#31 GrieverZ

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

View Postfrigidclam, on 27 November 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

Veevs pally dying in half of a deep freeze is fine but van and veev poping ALL their CD's to kill a druid is the same time is broken.....I don't understand people on this forum

Its ok because we're used to it.

#32 frigidclam

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:39 AM

View PostGrieverZ, on 27 November 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:

Its ok because we're used to it.

People just don't realize warriors HAVE to have avatar, banner, zerker rage and reck up with a 5 stack to crit that high plus you can watch the stacks rather easy that team has ENDLESS CC to stop his stacks. Mages can deep every 25 seconds 100k bomb>70k bolt>45k lance x 2. They can do that every 25 seconds they don't need anything to align and they just need to throw a blanket on the healer.

Are 300k crits fine? NO but dont act like mages dont destroy people in deeps or demo locks dont throw down 2 instant 175k chaos waves and lay out whole teams. Don't worry its all over tomorrow with the patch warriors will drop down the ratings. Hey that warrior poped everything....its ok let me just frost nova him.....back to wizard heaven like everyone wants

Edited by frigidclam, 27 November 2012 - 06:40 AM.


#33 zaeya

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:41 AM

If veeving is wrong, I don't want to be right.

#34 Chancesz

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:25 AM

can you idiots stop defending your own class? deep is alittle over the top vs pallys and warriors are just fucking broken beyond belief.

displacer beast/NS needs nerfing (adding this so im not like u sad kids)

#35 Feignxo

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:54 PM



This guy wins.
Lifebloom's bloom effect has been reduced by 20%. Wild Growth healing has been reduced by 20%.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

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#37 zaeya

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:06 AM

View PostChancesz, on 27 November 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

can you idiots stop defending your own class? deep is alittle over the top vs pallys and warriors are just fucking broken beyond belief.

displacer beast/NS needs nerfing (adding this so im not like u sad kids)

Everything you write is so negative.

#38 Nightmonkey

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:32 PM

View Posthairpiece, on 27 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

i can't tell if you are being serious or not....  veev hits him for a near 300k crit with ONE spell, vs several spells being hit into the deep freeze.


and no one is saying frost bomb or any damage is fine...but killing someone in literally one attack from what..80-90%? is definitely pretty hilarious....


What difference does it make if it's one spell or 3 spells while you can't do anything?

Don't fool yourself, Mage damage is equally if not more retarded than Warrior damage.  As somebody else said, Warriors need all of their cooldowns to make big numbers like this, Mages just need to freeze something for the insane damage to come out.

Full disclosure I play a Warrior from time to time, but neither me or anyone I've talked to that plays a Warrior really likes the way the class works right now.  Basically every 5 minutes Warriors get to do as much damage as Mages do every 25 seconds or less, and Warriors are the ones we're complaining about?

The same could be said for Warlocks really.  Every 2 minutes they get to join the 1 shot club, outside of that the damage is pretty pathetic.

#39 Pritchard

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 02:40 AM

View PostNightmonkey, on 29 November 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

What difference does it make if it's one spell or 3 spells while you can't do anything?

Don't fool yourself, Mage damage is equally if not more retarded than Warrior damage.  As somebody else said, Warriors need all of their cooldowns to make big numbers like this, Mages just need to freeze something for the insane damage to come out.

Full disclosure I play a Warrior from time to time, but neither me or anyone I've talked to that plays a Warrior really likes the way the class works right now.  Basically every 5 minutes Warriors get to do as much damage as Mages do every 25 seconds or less, and Warriors are the ones we're complaining about?

The same could be said for Warlocks really.  Every 2 minutes they get to join the 1 shot club, outside of that the damage is pretty pathetic.
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no one is saying frost bomb or any damage is fine


spells shouldn't hit for anything over 50k really, if the game was played in a more wounded state like they said this game would be infinitely better...no insane burst and no insane healing.  its never gonna happen though so whatever.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostNightmonkey, on 29 November 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

What difference does it make if it's one spell or 3 spells while you can't do anything?

Don't fool yourself, Mage damage is equally if not more retarded than Warrior damage.  As somebody else said, Warriors need all of their cooldowns to make big numbers like this, Mages just need to freeze something for the insane damage to come out.

Full disclosure I play a Warrior from time to time, but neither me or anyone I've talked to that plays a Warrior really likes the way the class works right now.  Basically every 5 minutes Warriors get to do as much damage as Mages do every 25 seconds or less, and Warriors are the ones we're complaining about?

The same could be said for Warlocks really.  Every 2 minutes they get to join the 1 shot club, outside of that the damage is pretty pathetic.
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