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#1 Qlol

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:17 AM

Played several games vs a TSG today and had no problem winning when the DK/War didn't train me from the very beginning but died within 1 minute when they did.  Partners complained about not being able to peel because of avatar, double freedom, lichborn, icebound and AMS.  I can't get myself topped without and breathing room, etc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!  =)

#2 Fawxfighter2013

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:22 AM

blood fear...sheep...deep freeze...mortal coil.....ring of frost

your partners fault imo

#3 majorblood

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:26 AM

View PostFawxfighter2013, on 26 November 2012 - 01:22 AM, said:

blood fear...sheep...deep freeze...mortal coil.....ring of frost

your partners fault imo
Blood fear is worthless vs lichborne/reck

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:32 AM

what you have to do is one shot the whole team with demonsoul

Edited by improveyup, 26 November 2012 - 01:41 AM.


#5 averagepriestz

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:53 AM

I don't really know how to answer this really, since it should be an easy win for you.

Control their Paladin, not their DPS as main priority, that way they will have to pop their own CD's to survive pretty fast, and might have to go defensive. Spellsteal their freedoms instantly, and keep pressuring the DK. He can't be on the offensive for more than a few seconds after this CD's are down when their healer is controlled. Your mage should stand in between you and their healer, effectively cutting their Paladin off. Keep the aura your Warlock provides up, and keep slowing the Warrior and use Ring of Frost and Deep Freeze to stop him.

Don't know what more to say. Use your cooldowns fast, don't be afraid to pop coldsnap to use a 2nd deepfreeze fast. Silence the Death Knight and just destroy him.

#6 majorblood

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:18 AM

View Postaveragepriestz, on 26 November 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

I don't really know how to answer this really, since it should be an easy win for you.

Control their Paladin, not their DPS as main priority, that way they will have to pop their own CD's to survive pretty fast, and might have to go defensive. Spellsteal their freedoms instantly, and keep pressuring the DK. He can't be on the offensive for more than a few seconds after this CD's are down when their healer is controlled. Your mage should stand in between you and their healer, effectively cutting their Paladin off. Keep the aura your Warlock provides up, and keep slowing the Warrior and use Ring of Frost and Deep Freeze to stop him.

Don't know what more to say. Use your cooldowns fast, don't be afraid to pop coldsnap to use a 2nd deepfreeze fast. Silence the Death Knight and just destroy him.
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#7 averagepriestz

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:48 AM

Oh well, guess that is a change in the right direction!

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:52 AM

Cc the paladin as ur main priority and put out insane damage on the war and dk to make them go defensive. Ur mage or ur lock should be playing in between them and the pally
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#9 CGK

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:57 AM

the biggest peel you have is CC on the paladin, if he is CC'd and your team is doing any pressure at all (which they should be) you should be able to force them to back off or else they will be in bigger trouble than you will.
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#10 Qlol

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:56 AM

Thanks for all the replies, guys!  We'll try and execute the things mentioned and see how they go!  <3

#11 djp771133

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:00 AM

blood fear pally, do stupid mage/lock damage on one of them, gg

#12 Stigz

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:28 AM

JK they both just pop CDs and are immortal while doing retarded damage :l

Skillcomp they say.
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#13 averagepriestz

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:48 AM

View PostStigz, on 26 November 2012 - 05:28 AM, said:

JK they both just pop CDs and are immortal while doing retarded damage :l

Skillcomp they say.

Off topic. I think the most retarded thing in your signature is that you did not die, and you managed to heal yourself back up solo (aside from 22k coming from the Priest).

Any other class would have rolled over in a split second.

#14 Berèn

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:41 AM

you have to blow cd's asap and blow them up faster than they do you,while you keep pally CC'd forever. It's basically a dps race but main thing is to stop them with novas etc as they rush in and start going ham on ilke warrior
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:09 AM

tbh with ams /10 sec cc immunity/ibf + avatar/mass reflect/freedom/berserker rage
theyre unpeelable for 30 secs, that includes the trinkets + paladin buble in order to maintain dps movement.

especially since lock is demo and does 0 dmg in first 30sec-1min you shouldnt win

#16 Rinolduus

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:56 AM

View Postaveragepriestz, on 26 November 2012 - 05:48 AM, said:

Off topic. I think the most retarded thing in your signature is that you did not die, and you managed to heal yourself back up solo (aside from 22k coming from the Priest).

Any other class would have rolled over in a split second.

no, the most retarded thing is that apparently the warlock got TWO FUCKING CHAOSBOLTS off in a row, which means he was able to cast for like 7 straight seconds. If you let him cast two chaosbolts in a row, you deserve to die. period.

then again, shaman heal.

#17 Stigz

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 12:33 PM

View PostRinolduus, on 26 November 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

no, the most retarded thing is that apparently the warlock got TWO FUCKING CHAOSBOLTS off in a row, which means he was able to cast for like 7 straight seconds. If you let him cast two chaosbolts in a row, you deserve to die. period.

then again, shaman heal.

4 seconds infact, not 7 :P

Even did it on my own Lock, although the numbers were a lot lower :(
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But atleast that Double Healer Warrior got what they deserved!
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#18 sarma

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:22 PM

View PostQlol, on 26 November 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

Played several games vs a TSG today and had no problem winning when the DK/War didn't train me from the very beginning but died within 1 minute when they did.  Partners complained about not being able to peel because of avatar, double freedom, lichborn, icebound and AMS.  I can't get myself topped without and breathing room, etc.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!  =)

I never lost to mls as tsg since s9 untill now unless it was a dc or we did some major mistake, there is literally nothing you or your team mates  can do to prevent shaman dying within first minute.However if you meet bads and they fail to kill you somehow in that 1 min window game turns into your favor and you should win.However this wont be the case if you meet descent people


On the other hand you can ask Anotherx about it he can probably write a book about how to lose as tsg to mls :D
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

View Postsarma, on 26 November 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

On the other hand you can ask Anotherx about it he can probably write a book about how to lose as tsg to mls :D

That was a low blow >.>

Your best bet to win is the peel before they get on your shaman, don't let them connect at the same time. Positioning is extremely important, and some maps will be heavily in your favor, and luckily RoV isn't in anymore.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:13 PM

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