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[Keddy]

Necrolina, on 24 November 2012 - 10:17 PM, said:

I don't know... I think we should just take a win wherever, whenever we can. Blizzard has responded significantly faster to everything than they did in previous seasons. The overall direction of pvp is certainly not horrible, but undoubtedly there is some polishing to do.

Feels to me like the game needs a lot more polishing than just some.

[Necrolina]

Keddy, on 24 November 2012 - 10:20 PM, said:

Feels to me like the game needs a lot more polishing than just some.

When has it ever felt different though? I mean, it's not like everything we have complained about since MoP came out has been ignored. If anything, they have been faster and more responsive.

[averagepriestz]

Necrolina, on 24 November 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

When has it ever felt different though? I mean, it's not like everything we have complained about since MoP came out has been ignored. If anything, they have been faster and more responsive.

Depends. Cataclysm Druids weren't exactly the fastest fix.

[Necrolina]

averagepriestz, on 24 November 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

Depends. Cataclysm Druids weren't exactly the fastest fix.

Talking about MoP and what we have seen of it so far, obviously

[bryaNz]

MoP > Woltk

[2infinitysv]

MoP best expac to date and im a rogue m8

[Florenz]

Gambino6, on 24 November 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

any mongoloids that get glad this season or s5 means nothing both seasons are retarded with many imba like how scumbag rsham, warr, mage, pre patch hunter, demo lock all are the scum of the earth, the rest of woltlk (s6-s7) or until they added ICC pve shit were actually really balanced and i enjoyed it a lot.  And Cata s10 was very balanced aswell, only proble was the shit MMR garbage.  If this pattern means anything we can hope for s13 balance?

pretty sure every season has had a negative...

[Top]

S5 was WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse than this season, it's not even a remotely close comparison.  This season isn't even that bad.  NO PVE GEAR IN ARENA HELLO?  Huge upside to this season.  They also seem to be actually talking about and making some arena changes more than previous expansions.

[hotcowz]

Balance doesn't really matter. Not every class and spec is supposed to be viable. It's always been like this. In fact, comparing to previous seasons, current class balance is ok-ish. The real issue with this season (and I personally believe, expansion as a whole) is how boring it is due to bloated spellbook, enormous amount of instant cc and cooldowns, one-shot mechanics etc.

MoP is just basically Cata 2. Same boring playstyle, more (dumb) stuff. In Wotlk/TBC there was much more emphasis on positioning, situational awareness, and other individual skills. Remember that time when you could feel you were clearly outplaying someone? Now when was the last time you felt you were massively outplaying or getting outplayed and it mattered? Even though class balance in s5 was worse than now, it was by far more fun to play. Boring arena playstyle, plus being forced to do those horrible rbgs to stay competive is what makes this season (and probably whole expansion, just like Cata) less exciting than s5.

Edited by hotcowz, 25 November 2012 - 08:13 AM.

[Radejjj]

Previous seasons, whether that be season 5 or season 11 or whatever, have always felt like its just a few things that need to be fixed. Like PvE gear or deathknights or something, a few things here and there, but This season, everything feels terrible.Blood fear, Demo Lock/Mage/Warrior burst, blood fear, instant cc in general, the amount of cooldowns and survivability every class has now, and blood fear.
Fuck blood fear, it is literally the single stupidest ability I have ever seen in this game

[Dakkrothy]

s5 was way worse than s12, anyone who doesnt agree probably didnt play s5 or blocked everything that happened in that season because it was THAT awful (unless u played dk, paladin or hunter obv) OR had a team which all abused GLG trinket.

[Saru93]

Of course Season 5 was way worse than Season 12, but that does not mean that it's fun to play this Game right now, or?

[Stolsben]

Agree with what some people said - this season is much more balanced but I still enjoyed s5 more.

ps. how do i make my helmets show?

Edited by Stolsben, 25 November 2012 - 01:35 PM.

[Florenz]

Dakkrothy, on 25 November 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

s5 was way worse than s12, anyone who doesnt agree probably didnt play s5 or blocked everything that happened in that season because it was THAT awful (unless u played dk, paladin or hunter obv) OR had a team which all abused GLG trinket.

don't forget hunter TNT stun xD

[Koshimo]

s5 was fun awful, s12 is boring awful.

[Hexagram]

Every single ability they've added to the game since wotlk has made the game worse overall.  A couple things needed to be toned down in s5 for the game to be made more fun and it was eventually.  So much shit needs to be nerfed in s12 for this game to be fun that I doubt it will ever happen.

No instant cast crowd control, root, or silence should ever last more than 3 seconds.  They gave every single class access to more than one group of diminishing return so they can layer full duration cc by themselves.  Diminishing return groups need to be expanded so fucking badly.  Fix this then balance healing/damage around it and the game would be a hundred times better.

S5 > s12 and I won't pretend that I'm not biased having played a paladin in s5 and having rolled a monk for s12

Edited by Hexagram, 25 November 2012 - 09:06 PM.

[ROKMODE]

Hexagram, on 25 November 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

Every single ability they've added to the game since wotlk has made the game worse overall.  

Mostly, this is true. There are plenty of abilities that were added in wotlk that were necessary though. Hex was a needed spell at the time as well as lava burst. With the wotlk changes, elemental shamans would not have done any damage without lava burst, nor would they have had any form of cc without hex. Adding spells can be good, but it's extremely reliant on the metagame and whatnot. That's for another thread though.


Rocket boots in arena made s5 too fun. . . if you had them of course

[Hexagram]

ROKMODE, on 25 November 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

Mostly, this is true. There are plenty of abilities that were added in wotlk that were necessary though. Hex was a needed spell at the time as well as lava burst. With the wotlk changes, elemental shamans would not have done any damage

I worded that poorly.  I meant every single ability added in cata/mop.

[Gabbit]

s12 worse

[Redefined]

S12 is far worse. Not *just* because I'm playing a Rogue, but because the playstyle of the game is just so awful at the moment.

I don't like the dispel change, I don't like the billions of instant CC, and I certainly don't like the CD stacking being the only way to kill someone.

Game just isn't fun at all.