Jump to content

Please help to bring affliction back


  • Please log in to reply
203 replies to this topic

#141 saffie

saffie
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Outland
  • Misery
  • Posts: 1089
  • Talents: Destruction 0/1/2/0/2/1
  • RBG: 2112

Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:46 PM

View PostNadagast, on 14 December 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

I agree entirely with you about our defense, Shadowfury/Coil/Howl, and Tremor Totem + Blood Fear.  I haven't played Affliction since the healing nerf, but I imagine that our damage would still be in a bad place, even with a UA dispel damage buff.  Affliction has damage/finishing problems even if they don't dispel any of your DoTs.

Yeah but they are not gonna change the damage, I'm no pve'er but from what I've heard affliction does the most damage among all classes in pve even. Perhaps they can increase soul shard regeneration in combat and divide unending resolve into 2 different spells 1 being the damage reduction part that is on 3 min cd, and the other is the aura mastery of it on 1 min cd, thus we could get more haunts/mgs in those times and do more pressure overall. I don't know its just a thought really, a flat out damage change will not happen because of PVE, what else can they do that would make us do better damage?

View PostRith, on 14 December 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

It would be strong if affliction had some extra survivability. Demo has an extra port, and destro has self heals. Its honestly the shittiest spec out of the three in terms of living. You might be able to get away using the port glyph but honestly the amount of damage other classes do, and the amount of damage affliction takes, its not viable at all.

I think exactly the same about this, Demo has 2 ports and a leap, destros self heals get even higher with mastery and if you have the embers it heals so much. What screwed affliction also is the lack of drain life. Its not worth casting in arena because of the damage/healing it does and how easily it can be interrupted nowadays. Affliction pretty much has nothing extra to survive unlike demo and destro. Buffing drain life wouldn't effect pve much either so they can actually do it, or at least give affliction something extra to survive on. When you soulburn drain life it heals %50 more, but it should also make that drain life uninterruptable and heal much more, so you can actually spend a soulshard to survive.

Also I really think they should make gateway about 2 seconds cast time as in some maps you can get it but some maps its impossible to pull off especially against warriors who just heroic leap and charge from the start.

Edited by saffie, 14 December 2012 - 01:53 PM.


#142 Chanimal

Chanimal
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • US-Tichondrius
  • Bloodlust
  • Posts: 1585
  • Talents: Destruction 1/2/2/1/2/0/1
  • 2v2: 2269
  • 3v3: 2469
  • RBG: 959

Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Gateway 2 second cast time
Soul link from old expansions
Demon soul being adjusted across all specs so the on use is not as strong but we gain part of the effect passively - in fact this is something that should be considered for every other "oneshot cd"
removal of offensive cd stacking

but this is blizzard we are talking about, i still have gope for ua since they've made some promising changes and s9 cleansing waters was probably worse than this

soulburn soul swap playstyle of UA now sucks and new malefic grasp / haunt for single target is terrible for pvp.

if u have a spammable sb ss macro pls pm me :)

Edited by Poobandit, 15 December 2012 - 05:24 AM.

twitch.tv/chanimaly follow me!

#143 Railander

Railander
  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Azralon
  • Shadowburn
  • Posts: 245
  • Talents: Demonology 1/2/0/1/0/0/0
  • 2v2: 1490
  • 3v3: 1516
  • 5v5: 1916
  • RBG: 1833

Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:17 AM

View Postsaffie, on 14 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

Demo has 2 ports and a leap
im really confused. wtf is this 2nd port?!

Posted Image


#144 Eiviyn

Eiviyn
  • Premium Junkies
  • Curse Premium
  • Blood Elfclass_name
  • EU-Defias Brotherhood
  • Rampage / Saccage
  • Posts: 73
  • Talents: Destruction 0/2/0/0/2/0

Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:22 AM

View PostRailander, on 15 December 2012 - 12:17 AM, said:

im really confused. wtf is this 2nd port?!

Caster form port and demon form port are 2 separate abilities with 2 separate cooldowns. You can port, pop demon form and immediately port again.

#145 Railander

Railander
  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Azralon
  • Shadowburn
  • Posts: 245
  • Talents: Demonology 1/2/0/1/0/0/0
  • 2v2: 1490
  • 3v3: 1516
  • 5v5: 1916
  • RBG: 1833

Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

View PostEiviyn, on 15 December 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

Caster form port and demon form port are 2 separate abilities with 2 separate cooldowns. You can port, pop demon form and immediately port again.
wow how the fuck didnt i know that

Posted Image


#146 saffie

saffie
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Outland
  • Misery
  • Posts: 1089
  • Talents: Destruction 0/1/2/0/2/1
  • RBG: 2112

Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

View PostRailander, on 15 December 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

wow how the fuck didnt i know that

Maybe you were too busy explaining us noobs on arenajunkies how affliction does so much damage :D

#147 Railander

Railander
  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Azralon
  • Shadowburn
  • Posts: 245
  • Talents: Demonology 1/2/0/1/0/0/0
  • 2v2: 1490
  • 3v3: 1516
  • 5v5: 1916
  • RBG: 1833

Posted 15 December 2012 - 02:04 AM

View Postsaffie, on 15 December 2012 - 12:41 AM, said:

Maybe you were too busy explaining us noobs on arenajunkies how affliction does so much damage :D
quite possibly lol. i honestly hate demo to the core

Posted Image


#148 myboomstick

myboomstick
  • Junkies
  • Orcclass_name
  • US-Daggerspine
  • Cyclone
  • Posts: 68
  • Talents: Affliction

Posted 15 December 2012 - 03:32 AM

Not sure how most of you think affliction's pressure is good.. Sure, play with a warrior and I bet "your pressure" feels amazing. My dmg is good at the end of a match but single target damage is about a 2/10 w/out darksoul. Also affliction locks are really squishy now, you have some great cooldowns but I find myself having to use them before these cleaves even have to pop any of their cds.. The spec. is just going to be pretty meh until either damage changes or survivability changes occur, in the meantime just gonna have to hop on a warriors back if you want to play affliction.

#149 Railander

Railander
  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Azralon
  • Shadowburn
  • Posts: 245
  • Talents: Demonology 1/2/0/1/0/0/0
  • 2v2: 1490
  • 3v3: 1516
  • 5v5: 1916
  • RBG: 1833

Posted 15 December 2012 - 04:31 PM

View Postmyboomstick, on 15 December 2012 - 03:32 AM, said:

Not sure how most of you think affliction's pressure is good.. Sure, play with a warrior and I bet "your pressure" feels amazing. My dmg is good at the end of a match but single target damage is about a 2/10 w/out darksoul. Also affliction locks are really squishy now, you have some great cooldowns but I find myself having to use them before these cleaves even have to pop any of their cds.. The spec. is just going to be pretty meh until either damage changes or survivability changes occur, in the meantime just gonna have to hop on a warriors back if you want to play affliction.
nobody here thinks afli's pressure is good. just because you do good dps doesnt necessarily mean you can put up pressure.
afli's single target dmg is as bad as it always was, and multi dot is as good as it always was. what changed was healing

Posted Image


#150 Nycto

Nycto
  • Junkies
  • Posts: 1506

Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:02 PM

Affliction doesn't need more damage it needs everything else re-worked.

#151 Nadagast

Nadagast
  • Moderators
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Tichondrius
  • Bloodlust
  • Posts: 1740
  • Talents: Affliction 0/2/0/2/0/0
  • 2v2: 1878
  • 3v3: 2779

Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

Somehow, hilariously, Demo is still our best spec I think.

#152 saffie

saffie
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Outland
  • Misery
  • Posts: 1089
  • Talents: Destruction 0/1/2/0/2/1
  • RBG: 2112

Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:00 AM

View PostNadagast, on 15 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Somehow, hilariously, Demo is still our best spec I think.
Yeah I know but since its not 30 times better like it used to be, I don't want to play a braindead spec :/

#153 Ahlaundoh

Ahlaundoh
  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Anetheron
  • Stormstrike
  • Posts: 819
  • Talents:
  • RBG: 1990

Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:19 AM

View Postsaffie, on 16 December 2012 - 12:00 AM, said:

Yeah I know but since its not 30 times better like it used to be, I don't want to play a braindead spec :/
why not?
Posted Image
Posted Image
pve the best

#154 saffie

saffie
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Outland
  • Misery
  • Posts: 1089
  • Talents: Destruction 0/1/2/0/2/1
  • RBG: 2112

Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:24 AM

View PostAhlaundoh, on 16 December 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

why not?

Because I don't like that as demo you never cast. I want to have fun when I play, its just not so much fun for me.

#155 Braindance

Braindance
  • Junkies
  • Orcclass_name
  • US-Tichondrius
  • Bloodlust
  • Posts: 3764
  • Talents: Arms 1/1/1/1/1/2
  • 2v2: 1638
  • 3v3: 2172
  • RBG: 576
  • LocationAtlanta

Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:59 AM

Did something change? Because aff seems to do actual damage now :o

View Postjustchecking, on 10 November 2014 - 11:58 PM, said:

Going to blizzcon looking for a fight is like going to the official wow arena forums for pvp advice :)

View PostRenaissance_Man, on 31 July 2013 - 04:31 AM, said:

If I had a gun with two bullets and I was in a room with Hitler, bin Laden, and you, I would shoot you twice.

View Postsimonfra1234, on 25 August 2011 - 08:46 PM, said:

bro you got +rep'd by rapture...

#156 Nadagast

Nadagast
  • Moderators
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Tichondrius
  • Bloodlust
  • Posts: 1740
  • Talents: Affliction 0/2/0/2/0/0
  • 2v2: 1878
  • 3v3: 2779

Posted 18 December 2012 - 04:04 AM

View PostBraindance, on 18 December 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

Did something change? Because aff seems to do actual damage now :o

Aff does actual damage in Dark Soul, and that's about it.  It's been like this the entire season.

Edited by Nadagast, 18 December 2012 - 04:04 AM.


#157 Moreudirl

Moreudirl
  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Mal'Ganis
  • Stormstrike
  • Posts: 130
  • Talents: Mistweaver 1/0/1/0/2/2
  • RBG: 2481

Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:22 AM

View PostNadagast, on 15 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Somehow, hilariously, Demo is still our best spec I think.

it is by far.

#158

  • Junkies
  • Undeadclass_name
  • US-Mal'Ganis
  • Stormstrike
  • Talents:
  • RBG: 2269

Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

View PostMoreudirl, on 18 December 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

it is by far.

i will get this changed.

#159 Snackumz

Snackumz
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • US-Tichondrius
  • Bloodlust
  • Posts: 420
  • Talents: Destruction 2/1/2/2/2/0/.
  • 2v2: 2233
  • 3v3: 2970
  • 5v5: 1248
  • RBG: 2289

Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

View Postbrosearch, on 18 December 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

i will get this changed.

ur my hero

#160 Breez

Breez
  • Junkies
  • Humanclass_name
  • EU-Outland
  • Misery
  • Posts: 89
  • Talents: Destruction 1/2/0/2/2/2
  • 2v2: 1452
  • 3v3: 2695
  • 5v5: 863
  • RBG: 2070

Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:52 AM

Thing that annoys me the most is that u have to keep switching spec everytime u play different setup, if u want to perform at best.

Edited by Breez, 19 December 2012 - 06:56 AM.





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

<