23 replies to this topic

[Glink]

Based on overall balance, fun, and skillcap, what do you think was the best arena season so far?

And what was the wost?

[Synkz]

voted s7 best, s5 worst

[Reirei]

well i played since s8 so my opinion is biased, but i think s8 is the most balanced what i played and s12 is hands down the worst

from what i heard/read/saw s5 was about as bad as s12...but i wasn't there

[Laas]

I feel like even with legendaries, S10 was very well balanced and the pacing of games was where I liked it. S12 is ridiculous, but the start of an expansion tends to be that way.

[Genezing]

For those who played it... know that S3 was the greatest season of all time.


S5 was the worst... DKs running around being unbeatable and Blizzard's excuse of them being a Hero Class and to get over it..

[Jacquelol]

its still too early to vote what season was the best, but I voted s12 based on hope!

[Afrozombie]

S1 the best because it was the beginning of arenas and should have been the example of how simple and skill curved it was. S11 had to be the worst, at least for warriors. PvE gear dominated the whole game, and made me feel like S5 all over again. Worst game design I have ever seen.

[Glink]

Jacquelol, on 21 November 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

its still too early to vote what season was the best, but I voted s12 based on hope!

Well...thats quite a lot of hope then.

[RavageDionne]

s11 hands down for the worst. Too much PvE gear reliance, it was horrible.
So far I'm liking s12 for obvious reasons. Hehe.

[Twocat]

S5 was so much worse than everything else, it's too bad people forgot what it was really like.
I'll never forget going 100-0 in a TNT stun, or dying from 2 icy touches at 30 yards away, or fear being a casted ranged stun because it took 40% HP to break, or ferals 1 shotting clothies with ferocious bite, effectively only having 60% HP vs ret paladins, or scourge strike(?) stripping all hots, or hpals with stun breaking freedom infinite mana, or triple GLG RMP etc

I could probably keep adding to this, but meh

[Jacquelol]

Glink, on 21 November 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

Well...thats quite a lot of hope then.

not really it seems like blizzard is acctuly caring about pvp related problems, atleast in some perspective 5.1 will bring some nice changes.

while s11 had no balance patch apart from vial and cunning nerf

Edited by Jacquelol, 26 November 2012 - 12:36 PM.

[Stigz]

I think everyone can propably agree we are playing the worst season by far right now.

[Dahone]

Fuck season 12   Broken as fuck  s8 was the best i think from what I heard didnt play that one.

[HealsnPeels]

This is going to be a biased result because a lot of people missed out on s5. Anyone who played that season knows nothing compares to DK's spamming icy touch to 2k. Played maybe 75 matches that season before i took an extended break from the game. I have actually enjoyed parts of this season (until you reach the point where you hit about 2.2 mmr and play the same 3-4 retarded comps over and over. Nothing better than pre-mding mages iceblocks to beat a shatterplay/godcomp this season though.

Best = s3 (s9 close 2nd) imo. The CC mechanics felt amazingly better than they do now. I don't remember spending 20 seconds of a match not being able to control my character because of instant cc's. The "drain the bucket - fill the bucket" arena system lead to longer matches but I don't think its possible to find someone in favor of dying in a global.

[FTRouslan]

MoP is just Cata arena but completely fucked up. There was less CC, more sustained damage, more balance (comparatively, but season 10 had the best balance ever), shorter CDs, and less CD reliance in Cataclysm. Still quite cooldown based, but it wasn't really necessary as anyone who fucked up their positioning long enough could be punished as long as you could line a CC chain or something.

Now we see shit sustained damage, huge CD reliance, and huge CD lengths for most classes. Dispel change is idiotic with the amount of CC we have in this game. We have huge amounts of offensive dispels but limited defensive dispels? Wat?

The only step in the right direction this game has taken is completely removing PvE gear from arena. While I disagree that PvE gear should be removed completely, it was time to remove items like Cunning of the Cruel when it accounts for over 25% of your TOTAL DAMAGE. Now that is ridiculous.


I hate how the dynamics of this game has been reduced to one shot, or get oneshotted through oodles of CC. If you don't one shot, better wait several minutes for another opportunity! Never has the burst in this game been this retarded, not only in concept, but in difficulty (extremely easy cooldown stacking without almost any other worry).

Like when I saw warriors, hunters, and mages this season, the only thing going through my head was "Wat? How did they let this get past the drawing board? Let alone the fucking alpha and beta."


S11 wasn't my favorite season, but I still had fun. Rogues weren't too bad, and overall I think there was a lot of balance. If you played certain comps, you could still be easily viable, and skill mattered. Resto druids were good if paired with spriests, resto shamans were decent overall, priests had their niche in certain comps and were still quite strong, and hpaladins performed best under cleaves, but exceptional paladins stretched the limits of their viability (Athlete, Karvinen, etc.).

Sure there was triple dps, but really, who really had to worry about that shit after 2300 MMR? Triple dps was just a duelist killing machine. The only real threat posed by triple dps is when they played rogue/ret/hunter, since that comp has the ranged smokebomb burst combined with two preparation-style cooldowns for huge amounts of CC.

Sure it was cheesy, but I felt like it didn't detract from the game, since as long as you knew what you were doing, you could beat the teams running them because they were usually bad. Most of the complaints came from the teams they countered, x/lock/shaman, which happened to dominate the ladders as well, so go figure!



All I know for certain, is that I no longer have the kind of fun I used to have on my DK.

[Twocat]

I remember this same thread in early S11 and everyone voted S10, funny how the most recent season is always the worst.

Also, S10 is arguably the worse than S5(the only season that is) because the game was actually unplayable. I remember queueing at 2.5k MMR on my BG and never getting a single team above 2.2k for hours, farming +1 or +2 just to lose -19+ to a shitty low rated triple DPS that globals my team in a smokebomb

FWIW, S12 made me quit the game after being subbed for 7 years. Not because of the bad balance, but because it simply isn't enjoyable. I hate the S12 playstyle, I don't think I've had more than a handful of matches out of a few hundred this season that I actually enjoyed.

[FTRouslan]

Twocat, on 26 November 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

I remember this same thread in early S11 and everyone voted S10, funny how the most recent season is always the worst.

Also, S10 is arguably the worse than S5(the only season that is) because the game was actually unplayable. I remember queueing at 2.5k MMR on my BG and never getting a single team above 2.2k for hours, farming +1 or +2 just to lose -19+ to a shitty low rated triple DPS that globals my team in a smokebomb

FWIW, S12 made me quit the game after being subbed for 7 years. Not because of the bad balance, but because it simply isn't enjoyable. I hate the S12 playstyle, I don't think I've had more than a handful of matches out of a few hundred this season that I actually enjoyed.

Out of the 3 seasons I've played so far, 9, 10, and 11, they were all generally enjoyable. S10 would have been awesome if they didn't fuck up with MMR, it definitely had the best balance. I cannot stand this season, I have rerolled about 4 times trying to find a class for me to enjoy this game, but I simply can't anymore. Thanks to the 5.1 gear changes, I'll be too poorly geared to matter in arena. I'm done.