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[Owies]

Blizzard always tryna nerf me

[Okayenhance]

Nerf RESTO SHAMAN mastery. Nerf being able to drop healing tide/SLT while LOCKED OUT.

Give Ele and Enhance something to reduce trainability (25% damage reduction while stunned?)

Make Purge glyph only Ele and Enhance.


BAM BALANCED YO


With the nerf to hybrid heals (cause hybrids = shadow priest apparently) and the nerf to totems coming up Enhance and Ele will be slaughtered.

I say bring it on Blizzard. Kill enhance/ele even harder, I enjoy the challenge.


^jk

Edited by Okayenhance, 17 November 2012 - 10:52 PM.

[Remade]

I think you only have to watch Reckful's stream to realise that in the current live game Shamans are not all that people think they are. Reckful seems to have more success just tunnelling shamans until they die so imagine if they couldn't drop totems in a silence, they will have no chance.

I feel that their purge is more of a problem than dropping totems while silenced. Maybe their mastery is of concern also but that probably can't be changed.

Their utility/totems is really what makes them a Shaman and even though I don't play one, I feel it would be a shame to take that away as I really enjoy watching top shamans play.

Edited by Remade, 19 November 2012 - 02:27 AM.

[pripripriest]

Remade, on 19 November 2012 - 01:18 AM, said:

I think you only have to watch Reckful's stream to realise that in the current live game Shamans are not all that people think they are. Reckful seems to have more success just tunnelling shamans until they die so imagine if they couldn't drop totems in a silence, they will have no chance.

If you check the BWC results Yaspresents beat both EG and LG-IM in the finals. Obviously Shamans are not that OP v Melee Cleaves?

I feel that their purge is more of a problem than dropping totems while silenced. Maybe their mastery is of concern also but that probably can't be changed.

Their utility/totems is really what makes them a Shaman and even though I don't play one, I feel it would be a shame to take that away as I really enjoy watching top shamans play.

yeh cause yaspresent wasn't playin with a shammy healer and a mage at all ... lmao get ur fight straight before talkin random crap thanks

[Covlol]

Okayenhance, on 17 November 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Make Purge glyph only Ele and Enhance.

Just remove the glyph. Balanced.

[pripripriest]

yeah cause apart from purge shammies are fine. meh...

[Remade]

pripripriest, on 19 November 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

yeh cause yaspresent wasn't playin with a shammy healer and a mage at all ... lmao get ur fight straight before talkin random crap thanks

*fixed, my apologies, I didn't actually watch their fights just looked at site

[Claynz]

pripripriest, on 19 November 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

yeah cause apart from purge shammies are fine. meh...

I agree purge is over the top but outside ascendance the substain damage from enhance is not that high.
Purge is what makes enhance soo strong atm.

[Ynxeu]

Should be able to use totems while blank silence.

Remember when they changed druids to being able to use barkskin while blank silenced? Why would they nerf shaman's niche then..

Tbh, you shouldn't be able to use totems while being interrupted tho.. that's just bad design all together from the start..

[Enigmz]

its time to learn to play my dear shamans

[Frango]

Sry bois but it was about time. Ofc this nerf seems too harsh with the current state of arena but rly any healer can be killed in a deep/silence combo. Once they balance the dmg this change will be good

[Domesauce]

Frango, on 19 November 2012 - 02:54 PM, said:

Sry bois but it was about time. Ofc this nerf seems too harsh with the current state of arena but rly any healer can be killed in a deep/silence combo. Once they balance the dmg this change will be good

Any healer can be killed in a deep+silence, but they all have more than 1 out for it. After this change shamans will only have 1 out.

I don't think it's well understood what this nerf actually does, people just see "shaman nerf" and get all happy. There are many problems with shamans that have been listed in this thread, but being able to actually use your CDs to live through stun+silence is not one of them.

[Rylezlol]

shamans are new pala just no bouble but they got tremor (only diff)

[brbweed]

This is how the shamans should die my man!!! Rmp should be able to get free glads 4eva and those pesky little
shamans stand between me and my faceroll,,,,NERF!!!

[Yarmyxx]

Chazzwozzer, on 16 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

You're clearly cherry picking here.  You choose to leave out the fact that paladins can bubble silence/stuns, priests can pain suppress during stuns (and spectral guise), and druids can barksin during stuns and displace beast during silences.  I am unaware of healer monk abilities during stun/silence, but I'm fairly certain they have some sort of defense while stunned.

I'm not going to argue that shamans aren't currently the best healer, because they certainly are.  But as others have argued, being able to drop totems during silence isn't the problem.  Healing output, tremor totem (especially with totemic restoration), and double offensive dispel are the obvious problems from my perspective.  Also, as most shamans have stated, I would have no problem with totems being unusable during lockouts, but unusable during silences is definitely over the top.

priests cant use anything while silenced.

[pripripriest]

brbweed, on 20 November 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

This is how the shamans should die my man!!! Rmp should be able to get free glads 4eva and those pesky little
shamans stand between me and my faceroll,,,,NERF!!!

that's probably vial of shadow effect. For the record, that's exactly what happens to me everythime a warr goes on me... just sayin

[samjese]

so glad i quit this game

[infectionx]

pripripriest, on 20 November 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

that's probably vial of shadow effect. For the record, that's exactly what happens to me everythime a warr goes on me... just sayin

The vial did 15k damage, it was human mage's burst with all cd's and tricks up, i remember this clearly, even ven said he got multiple x35k crits in a row.

[pripripriest]

infectionx, on 20 November 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

The vial did 15k damage, it was human mage's burst with all cd's and tricks up, i remember this clearly, even ven said he got multiple x35k crits in a row.

you right... that game was SO bad ... Thanks god mop fixed it

[Stigz]

pripripriest, on 20 November 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

you right... that game was SO bad ... Thanks god mop fixed it

They aren't the only classes :l