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#21 Snipin

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 02:58 PM

View PostShadowtiger, on 16 November 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

BM with monkeys, mage, healer monk. Works surprisingly well. Just survive (which isn't all too hard with 4x RoS and monkey stuns everywhere) until mage globals something. Wonder what healer is best tho
You should probably be using the Crane, same effect as bad manner, but no cast time

edit: DR's with stuns aswell

Edited by Snipin, 16 November 2012 - 03:07 PM.


#22 Eazymothafukne

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:03 PM

You can still play KFC if you play it correctly with a double shockwave or shockwave on spriest to stop MDs or eating traps on healers to force CDs. atm hunters mobility if used correctly is insane same with warriors ofc and also if they play with a strong hpal that knows how to play.. this comp is still glad viable but you will prob say god comp shits on it you can have a 50/50 with god comp depends if your pally is not garb and lives thru their burst or avoids fears/sacs polys ect and your hunter uses stampede for mends to live thru their cooldowns.
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#23 Shadowtiger

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:07 PM

View PostSnipin, on 16 November 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

You should probably be using the Crane, same effect as bad manner, but no cast time

edit: DR's with stuns aswell

Yea i actually swapped em, got so fucking tired of the bad manner cast time

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:20 PM

Why any comp would pick hunter when they can just take mage/Spriest instead? higher burst, better cc/peels/ better survival.
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:15 AM

Any reason to bring us to RBGs either? Having an hard time to justify my spot in a group atm when they can just bring a second mage, second lock or second DK instead.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:17 AM

Knocking back shit in EoTS.

That's about it.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

I'm playing kfc atm, (started after the stampede fix), and it still feels decent to me. We're at 2374 now - just checked, as ladders for some reason don't update (which i guess is due to all the abusers).

Godcomp feels like a counter, as does dot cleaves. Shadow priest teams in general really are hard, and we need to double cc a lot. Which is ok, since most of our shit is instant anyway. You do have to wait with blowing CDs though (duh...), and try to get a kill either during warr's or hunter's cds. It's not always a good idea to pop all at the same time.

But yea, godcomp and the shaman version are both pretty aids. They can just peel forever and set up burst at any random moment. Need to save some interrupt or cd for the deep every single time, which i'm not looking forward to come the gag order removal.

The only hunter teams i've faced at ok rating has been kfc, phd, jungle and hunter ret healer.

Edited by Arnie, 17 November 2012 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:23 PM

View PostSnipin, on 13 November 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

PHD is fucking dog shit. Frost DK's don't belong in arena. All they bring is a bunch of splash damage and random burst that is very weird to coordinate with. The reason PHD was great last season is because of it's ability to set the opposing team so far behind from the beginning of the game. The pressure would start with cooldowns and it would never quite go away with the amount of interrupts the comp had.

I disagree, PHD is not bad at all. Why play frost if you can play unholy too? We seem to do well against Godcomp and in general all mage/sp teams. Warriors can be hard but managable.

Edited by tika, 17 November 2012 - 01:28 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

View Posttika, on 17 November 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

I disagree, PHD is not bad at all. Why play frost if you can play unholy too? We seem to do well against Godcomp and in general all mage/sp teams. Warriors can be hard but managable.

How you running it? mainly RoS pets or you go more offensive with fero pet? You play def against spellcleaves or try for early pressure with cooldowns?

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:29 AM

View PostShadowtiger, on 17 November 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

How you running it? mainly RoS pets or you go more offensive with fero pet? You play def against spellcleaves or try for early pressure with cooldowns?

Defensive with RoS pets
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:47 AM

View Posttika, on 18 November 2012 - 10:29 AM, said:

Defensive with RoS pets

Assumed that, ty, feels like RoS pets is the only thing that can keep you alive nowdays in 3s

Edited by Shadowtiger, 18 November 2012 - 11:47 AM.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 01:04 PM

Hunters are still pretty strong, and rank1 viable imo, just need a lot better team play, i have done KFC/PHD/Junglecleave to 2.2k+ after stampede fix.

But, problem is that hunter getting another nerf, and MM is complete shit, so cy@ hunters in 5.1 and probably for quite good time.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 01:06 PM

View Posttika, on 18 November 2012 - 10:29 AM, said:

Defensive with RoS pets

I wish i can run with RoS pets, but sometimes my pet get cleaved hard just focused when its 50% into 1 shot, then if i can't insta summon pretty much game over.

P.S  Nerf fucking aoe chaos wave plx.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 01:50 PM

no the problem is ... unless your friends love you, there's no comp where you're better off having a hunter instead of X ... im holding my friends back playing hunter instead of getting a mage/lock/spriest/war in my place.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 02:24 PM

BM doesnt have enough room for invidual skill to make it competitive againts all those castercleaves out there.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:56 AM

Mostly bc youre not in control.of you damage and utility 50-75% of a game agaisnt a good team. My pet is rooyed or novad or feared to.africa. or dead almost constantly against good teams. Putting most of out damage Crushes bm. And making almost all of our utility involve pets hinders hunters as a whole

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

View PostJokerplex, on 14 November 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

So what? Its not like hunter brings anything to the comp other classes cant do better. its only good because warriors are dumb, if they were average comp would be bad

emo more pls. kfc is still good and can remain highly competitive with pretty much anything but a good god comp. whingers gonna whinge

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:32 AM

Any competent team will kill your pet in < 2 seconds. They have what, 240k health and 0 resilience? After that (and assuming you're pet is specced Ferocity), you get 1 rez. Getting a 6 second cast after that is pretty much out of the question.

After the further 5.1 nerfs to BM, I don't think it'll even be worth bothering speccing BM, unless you're doing it for PvE. Good teams will control your burst with ease.

Hopefully the 5.1 changes to Marks will be enough.

Edited by Nitric, 20 November 2012 - 02:34 AM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:15 PM

For anybody running KFC after the reset: are you planning on using sac pets?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:15 PM

Jungle cleave with 5x ferocity pets insane dmg ^^ stack full pvp power CC a target pop cds collect pts.

Use 5 pets that will benefit your setup the best buff/ enemy debuff wise, stack full mastery otherwise and go orc for extra pet dmg

Edited by Eeldax, 20 November 2012 - 11:22 PM.





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