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#1 Smax

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:22 PM

Hi, does Taste for Blood get nerfed next patch or do I have to play with a Warrior? Because Warrior's have no support for H.Paladins and I really don't want to have to do that!

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:33 PM

Taste for Blood isn't getting nerfed next patch (as of yet). However, a quote from Blizzard: "we are going to be trying out a change on the PTR where Taste for Blood will only be able to stack to a maximum of three." This would be an extremely reasonable change.

Don't play with a Warrior because of TfB alone, though. That's a silly reason!

You don't have to play with a Warrior as a Holy Paladin, anyway Shadowpriest/Mage/Holy Paladin is pretty solid, among other comps. I don't really agree with you that Warriors have no support for Holy Paladins. Safeguard and Shockwave alone are excellent peels. Warrior and Holy Paladin synergy is at an all time high right now.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:59 PM

It's not about him supporting you, it's about you supporting him... so he can go rambo and slay those who oppose you.

#4 Artunias

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

I don't see how people ever get 5 stacks, not that I've played much. But a majority of the time I have cc focused into me and will never get more than 2-3 stacks. Even 95% of the time against a target dummy I won't get to 5 stacks.

I guess the 1 game out of 100 it happens and you wtf blow someone up would cause much rage, but damn. Why is there so much qq over this. Maybe I just have terrible rng compared to the rest of the world.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:42 PM

View PostArtunias, on 12 November 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

I don't see how people ever get 5 stacks, not that I've played much. But a majority of the time I have cc focused into me and will never get more than 2-3 stacks. Even 95% of the time against a target dummy I won't get to 5 stacks.

I guess the 1 game out of 100 it happens and you wtf blow someone up would cause much rage, but damn. Why is there so much qq over this. Maybe I just have terrible rng compared to the rest of the world.

Thats just it, its all RNG. But even the 1 time where u can just about global someone makes it unbalanced. Honestly i hate this ability and wish they would just cap it at 3 stacks, make every overpower 100% proc another one and lower the dmg of the stacks to make up for it.
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#6 Pinka

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

Make it stack to 2-3 stacks and let it work on slam damage instead so we cant burst off the global + this will make slam a more usefull ability rather then just another rage dump.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

View PostPinka, on 12 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Make it stack to 2-3 stacks and let it work on slam damage instead so we cant burst off the global + this will make slam a more usefull ability rather then just another rage dump.

I like that idea too, right now slam is only used when it doesn't get in the way of MS/OP/CS and we have the extra rage.
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#8 Jækop

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

View PostPinka, on 12 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Make it stack to 2-3 stacks and let it work on slam damage instead so we cant burst off the global + this will make slam a more usefull ability rather then just another rage dump.

Well they have to tweak it a bit, as of slam will hit VERY hard if its get included in the TFB. getting 1 x 1-300% extra dmg on slam would be silly, but if you think about a lesser scale as of maybe 30/60/90 it would make slam a smart choice at the same time as they do the same with heroic strike damage
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#9 Babypuke

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostPinka, on 12 November 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

Make it stack to 2-3 stacks and let it work on slam damage instead so we cant burst off the global + this will make slam a more usefull ability rather then just another rage dump.

It used to affect slam rather than HS in the early beta... I liked it A LOT more back then, it made more sense and cleaned up our rotation, allowing us to HS inbetween globals whenever we needed to take a dump.

Edited by Babypuke, 14 November 2012 - 08:37 AM.


#10 Axar81

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:19 AM

We dont win 3s games beacuse of TFB, 2s possible to play def, stack x5, switch, cds, kill.

3s, different story, on decent mmr atleast.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:03 AM

Exactly what Babypuke said above. Hs should be our rage burn. It is made off the global to prevent us overflowing with rage between globals. I just hate to have around 2-3 stacks and near 100 rage just to know that i am going to waste rage if i am not going to Hs fast.

Some would say that is a skill based coice. But really. With that ammount of rng. It isn't. I rather have it stack 3 times so it still gives a fun factor on actually building the stacks up. Ofcourse it shoulden't be 100% more damage. But like 50% or less each stack would be good.

This makes slam a fun to use kind of Hulk smash button. Based on how much power (stacks) you have built up.
In this situation you have to choose between building stacks up to max. Wait for a CS or burst cds and risk wasting stacks or to slam right away.

It also makes it able to let you pool rage and burn if off when you risk on overpooling yourself with HS without the fustration to lose stacks.

Right now HS and Slam are way to similar in terms of use.

Edited by Pinka, 15 November 2012 - 12:09 AM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:12 PM

Alright, then. Let's start telling the crab.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:34 AM

I hit some mistweaver monk the other day for 370k heroic strike crit without Csmash. He had 4/5 malev with weps. :)
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:38 AM

View PostEazymothafukne, on 16 November 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:

I hit some mistweaver monk the other day for 370k heroic strike crit without Csmash. He had 4/5 malev with weps. :)

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:51 AM

tested 3 stack on TR, still crits 190k + 75k MS on same global, nice game.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:08 AM

Did 11 games tonight, I stacked x5 like 10 times, tho I tried out dbl healer.

260k HS was my top :>

shit gear, too.
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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:51 PM

View PostAxar81, on 14 November 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

We dont win 3s games beacuse of TFB, 2s possible to play def, stack x5, switch, cds, kill.

3s, different story, on decent mmr atleast.

390k HS

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Edited by Shock1911, 17 November 2012 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

Dream patch notes for TFB

1. Stacks capped at 3.
2. Every use of overpower has 100% chance to proc TFB, but only 30% (this can change) to proc another overpower.
3. Lower the bonus damage to make up for the guaranteed stacks.
4. TFB effects slam, again lower the bonus dmg to make up for this not effecting HS anymore.
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