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#1 mukuld50

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:07 AM

For people that have been playing enhancement, anyone have a PvP power vs. agility comparison or sim done?

Thanks.

#2 Stigz

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:10 AM

PVP Power is better point per point, that makes it way superior to gem because you get double the stats from PVP Power gems compared to Agility.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:12 AM

View PostStigz, on 11 November 2012 - 07:10 AM, said:

PVP Power is better point per point, that makes it way superior to gem because you get double the stats from PVP Power gems compared to Agility.

Could you explain how you get double the stats from PvP power gems?

Edit: also, that means that you are suggesting to use, say, PvP power/agility gems in red sockets instead of straight agility?

Edited by mukuld50, 11 November 2012 - 07:15 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:19 AM

Agility Gem = 160
PVP Power Gem = 320

1 PVP Power equals about 1.2 Agility

So PVP Power is a lot better.
Only place you should use Agi+Power gem is Helm to get the socket bonus.
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:21 AM

View PostStigz, on 11 November 2012 - 07:19 AM, said:

Agility Gem = 160
PVP Power Gem = 320

1 PVP Power equals about 1.2 Agility

So PVP Power is a lot better.
Only place you should use Agi+Power gem is Helm to get the socket bonus.

Ah doh, totally forgot that PvP power is 320 and not 160, thanks.

Edit: and I will probably use the agility JC gem in helm to get the bonus, just because of the added little extra crit from agil

Edited by mukuld50, 11 November 2012 - 07:24 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:27 AM

Mhmm i have a input on this, im JC and i got 320agi gems can that be better aka 640 agi vs 640 pvp power?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:42 AM

View PostClaynz, on 11 November 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Mhmm i have a input on this, im JC and i got 320agi gems can that be better aka 640 agi vs 640 pvp power?

There is no PvP power JC exclusive cut though, so the agility JC gem will be better is the thing.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:44 PM

If you wanna make it as an enha you'r gonna want to gem full resi :)

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:57 AM

Does anyone feel enhance just gets shit on? Been playing for the last week, 62.5% resil and I can still get globalled stacking every defensive cd.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:54 AM

Enhance doesn't feel good to play. Not that it isn't viable, but the way the a lot of the cds are on global, yet with the way the game is, you need to pop them all at once. I think they will be much better in 5.1, since theoretically they should be good against all the upcomming wizards.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:21 AM

i sometimes silence ascended enhance shams cuz im scared... does that stop them from doing anything important?

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

View PostParkways, on 14 November 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

Does anyone feel enhance just gets shit on? Been playing for the last week, 62.5% resil and I can still get globalled stacking every defensive cd.

Yeah I am getting raped lol

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:38 AM

View PostDonald, on 14 November 2012 - 06:21 AM, said:

i sometimes silence ascended enhance shams cuz im scared... does that stop them from doing anything important?

Sort of, but it doesnt stop their major hard hitting CDs

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:34 PM

It just feels so hard to survive vs any cleave sitting on you.

Would be cool if an actual enhance4lyf sham would post some tips in here.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

rockbiter main hand flametongue off hand, 40% dmg reduction for 5 secs every 15 secs when paired with top tier unleash talent, not for everygame but for comps that train you start to finish. It's just an idea
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:44 PM

View PostMattadoro, on 14 November 2012 - 08:05 PM, said:

rockbiter main hand flametongue off hand, 40% dmg reduction for 5 secs every 15 secs when paired with top tier unleash talent, not for everygame but for comps that train you start to finish. It's just an idea

I tried that, rockbiter/frostband for the sprint, but still felt like i got pooped on.  Plus with no windfury MH, damage is pretty meh, and enhance damage isnt that amazing to begin with outsides wolves/ascendance

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:23 PM

View PostParkways, on 14 November 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

It just feels so hard to survive vs any cleave sitting on you.

Would be cool if an actual enhance4lyf sham would post some tips in here.

I just run with a Resto Druid and only go in when we have CC up on one of the other DPS.
Got to play like the biggest pussy melee the world has ever seen (just like last season).

Thankfully since we have some spells it's not so bad, purging from range and bind elemental on mage pets.

Since Enhance really has no good consistent damage it's just better for your team for you to only go in when you have cooldowns up or CC out on healers/dps.
Try running with a mage (like I do) or a demo lock. Let them cc the dps off you if you are being trained so you can do some damage.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

Hey there,

I just returned 3 weeks ago to WoW since last season in Wotlk, playing as enhance, could someone give me a short summary, what should i reforge / enchant overall? So far i still don't have the conquest weapons, but everything else is honor / conquest pvp item, i die like a fly, so i socket PvP Resilience and PvP power everywhere. Is there any hit / expertise cap i should aim for?

Thanks :)

Edited by Darksoldierr, 31 January 2013 - 01:39 PM.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:14 AM

View PostDarksoldierr, on 31 January 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

Hey there,

I just returned 3 weeks ago to WoW since last season in Wotlk, playing as enhance, could someone give me a short summary, what should i reforge / enchant overall? So far i still don't have the conquest weapons, but everything else is honor / conquest pvp item, i die like a fly, so i socket PvP Resilience and PvP power everywhere. Is there any hit / expertise cap i should aim for?

Thanks :)

im reforging mastery > crit > haste, same with enhanting, socketing full resil even tho i get canned through stacked def cds. you should have 3% hit for the cap, and if you dont want casters to parry from up front you can get 6% expertise, otherwise just get 3% exp as well.
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:22 AM

View PostAntitaleon, on 01 February 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

im reforging mastery > crit > haste, same with enhanting, socketing full resil even tho i get canned through stacked def cds. you should have 3% hit for the cap, and if you dont want casters to parry from up front you can get 6% expertise, otherwise just get 3% exp as well.

Alright, thank you :)
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