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#21 Rxia

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:00 AM

Looks good... although I already got used to the awful Trap Launcher so changing it again would just be confusing.
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#22 lobster

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:34 PM

at ABSOLUTE MINIMUM ... chimera shot -HAS- to do more damage...

it just has to.  Chim critting for less and sometimes half as much as ice lance is one of the biggest jokes ever present in wow

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#23 Vallok

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:57 PM

Aimed shot is a joke atm. Powershot is the only hard hitting move as MM and it's not easy to get off.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:17 PM

Lol, so true, its so funny that ice lance actually hits harder than chimera shot crit lololol xD
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#25 Snipin

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:37 PM

Guys, I love that we are posting ideas, and pretty much all of them mentioned were great, but will this get any recognition?
People have said how blizzard doesn't look at class specific forums, well if that's the case, how do we express our opinion to them about our class????

#26 idevpro

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 10:02 PM

Btw, some guy on ur thread says blizzard will not put much coding into new changes to hunters cus they code for their future plan to wow and they spend time on that, explain that new warlock spell, and the fact that they changed its animation and effect like twice....

Edited by idevpro, 13 November 2012 - 10:05 PM.

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#27 idevpro

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 07:42 PM

Steady Shot hits 3k on warrior, with T2. DAMN THIS IS GOOD
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#28 Broxxy

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

well this patch build looks like a release build. So...no Marks tuning. Gonna be a long wait

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:40 PM

I'm thinking about uninstalling this whole piece of shit.

MM: Aimed shot crits for ~32k on warr, Blink strike for ~37k.

Fuck

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#30 Nez

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:57 PM

View PostShadowtiger, on 15 November 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

I'm thinking about uninstalling this whole piece of shit.

MM: Aimed shot crits for ~32k on warr, Blink strike for ~37k.

Fuck

This

Game

At least power shoot hits fo.... oh wait.

#31 Shadowtiger

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:39 PM

View PostNez, on 15 November 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

At least power shoot hits fo.... oh wait.

for 0? ye :D Life is great

Edited by Shadowtiger, 15 November 2012 - 01:47 PM.


#32 idevpro

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:48 PM

View PostNez, on 15 November 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

At least power shoot hits fo.... oh wait.

Laughed so hard
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:59 PM

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I know you aren't ignoring MM, but do you really think the minor changes in 5.1 will be enough for it to be viable?
We increased the duration of Steady Focus, which is both a quality of life and DPS increase. (Source)

Do spirit beasts do more dps than regular pets since panda?
That's not our intent. They shouldn't. We'll have to check if they don't if that's the contention. (Source)

<3 the Fox changes, but what about "ranged should lose DPS while moving"? Will u reintroduce a penalty like sniper training?
We might reintroduce Sniper Training if hunters never stop moving, but not for 5.1.

Nerfing froststorm breath? BM AOE is already horrible. Why nerf it more?
I think data mining is picking up changes we hotfixed in weeks ago. Don't assume datamined tooltip changes are real changes. (Source)

So I was curious to see the 5.1 patch notes contained nothing in regards to BM hunters having reduced damage output.?
Their damage output is fine. Their damage output in a short window is not, and that's where we targeted the changes. (Source)

#34 Buktz

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

View Postsounds_, on 15 November 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

I know you aren't ignoring MM, but do you really think the minor changes in 5.1 will be enough for it to be viable?
We increased the duration of Steady Focus, which is both a quality of life and DPS increase. (Source)
Cooool..

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:28 AM

Powershot is the most retarded confusing ability, Why? Because it knocks off ppl, yet its 3 SEC CAST, YET you can not do it while moving, how on earth would you be able to position yourself to knock in the direction you want, besides, its AOE, you can start casting it, ur target move next to ur trapped target or any cc'ed target, end of story.

tbh Powershot MUST be able to cast while moving, and 2.5 sec cast.

Edited by idevpro, 16 November 2012 - 08:28 AM.

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#36 Ragerlis

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:43 AM

Power shot is crap no matter what, low dps, the knockback isn't that good for burst/kill setup moments, the cast is just horrendous, and its a skill shot.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:27 AM

there should be glyph of powershot where it removes knockback or can't aoe hit cc-ed targets.
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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:26 PM

no love for SV at all? QQ

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:38 PM

View PostDevion87, on 16 November 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

no love for SV at all? QQ
I wouldn't mind some survival buffs either but atm imo hunter needs more buffs overall. Not only in damage(MM/surv) but in cc/survival aswell.
I don't know , but imo they either have to make Silence shot same effect as CS or make CS/spelllocks and such spell same effect as silence shot aswell(atleast blanketwise).

Another crazy thing that was going around my head is maybe having x2 charges on each trap school? Just as double charge and such works. For example you freeze healer, you can still use aoe slow(2nd charge). Or you can retrap healer with DR. Or even if partners ate trap you have 2nd chance(lets face it - its not hard for people to eat traps nowadays).

Another trap change is just lower trap cd to like 15 sec (same as repentance) 28 sec(since everyone uses pvp gloves) is kinda way too long. This way if you scattered and dps crossed the whole map and ate trap( gotta love those quick triggers) you wont rage that you gotta wait 28 sec to try trap again. Instead you can pet sleep him and trap him in 15 sec.

Also they have to make trigger faster and with maybe something like 1yd more range. As mentioned by many hunters people are walking thru the traps and it just doesnt trigger.

Maybe they should make intimidating shout baseline aswell so we can have some decent peel while playing 2v2. Im not really liking this idea but it might be good. Or even if its BM only why dont they reduce it to 20-30 sec cd aswell so it's like shockwave cd too.

I know it's lame to be like"ooh other classes have those abilities - why dont we have them too" but right now everyone have better cc than hunters. I also know theres way too much cc in the game aswell. Maybe instead of giving us cc they could also remove some cc or give it cd(example poly to have 3-5 sec cd so its not healer dispels you and you just sit half poly afterwards).

Edited by Hiddenstalke, 16 November 2012 - 10:38 PM.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 03:56 AM

DISCLAIMER : THIS IS VERY ROUGH IDEAS FROM A SIMPLE BRAINSTORM WITH A FRIEND, IF YOU THINK THEY ARE UNREASONABLE PLEASE ARGUMENT INTELLIGENTLY TO IMPROVE THEM.

Remove Stampede.

Replace it with a baseline Barrage, buff it to be a decent DPS CD ala Killing Spree, also add a Major glyph called "Glyph of Focus Fire"  that buffs the single target damage  but no longer cleaves a la Glyph of Starfall so we can have control over what the ability does in our particular comps. Still castable while moving like in 5.1.

Redesign lvl 75 tree :

Half A Murder of Crows focus cost, make it reset completly if the target its on dies.

Replace Blink Strike with something less redundant with Kill Command. Out of ideas for now.

Revert Lynx Rush change and make it cleave an additional target in a 5yards radius.

LvL 90 Tree.

Glaive toss hits much harder, CD bumped to 1 minute, also roots the target for 3 to 5 seconds.

Power Shot redesigned, its now a buff on a 2 minutes cd that greatly improve's your spec's signature shot.

Powered up Kill Command : Blink Strike, shadow step your pet behind the target, does more damage than KC also give's your pet a 6 seconds freedom.

Powered up Explosive Shot : Improved Damage, instantly procs Lock and Load, stuns the target for 3 seconds (TNT Stun comeback without the RNG shit).

Powered Chimera Shot : Improved Damage, Improved healing, Knock backs the target as far as the current Power Shot.

Add a new 3rd lvl 90 ability here. Out of ideas for now.

Also buff pets survivability, its really insanely stupid how easy it is to kill them now.

Edit : Few typos.

Edited by GrieverZ, 17 November 2012 - 04:52 PM.





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