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#21 djp771133

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

View PostNelehx, on 07 November 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

i accedently repped you im sorry,  was gonna quote you :'(
i think there is a reason US is horrible in all possible ways while sweden and many other welfare countries are considered as the richest countries in the worlds when calculating with bnp (ppp) per person, while great US is so poor its beyond imagination, so i have no idea how you can say welfare is shit and everyone becomes lazy, you still get paid way more for working in sweden (who is VERY more social than obama ever will be)

also how the fuck can you defend conservative downer romney, just doesn't make sense how a young person can be conservative and think "it was better before", your childhood must've sucked m8)

also romney wants to spend more money on military than before, don't they spend enough already ? :confused:
and if you actually think staying hardcore liberal or conservative will save the US's economy you are just retarded beyong imagination, i'm speechless how stupid you actually are


just my 50 cent, 313 313

edit: also faggots are sick in the head and women should stay home obviously
jk, ur mindset... fucking broken m8 im telling you

I'd like to talk about a real issue here.  Do you even lift?

But honestly, what I was trying to say is that Romney has a clear plan for the economy and what did Obama have... A speech? Obama tries to fix the economy by spending more money, government bailouts stimulus package etc.  I have a feeling that Romney's plan would have worked because of his obvious undeniable success in the business world.  He is a person I would trust to have good insightful knowledge about how to rebuild the US economy.  Another thing is that Romney isn't a hardcore conservative, he has actually gone more to the middle and it's probably the reason that he even got that close to being elected.

Welfare is almost rewarding to people who do nothing.  A majority of people on welfare are able-bodied people who choose to do nothing and mooch off people who have made something for themselves.  Taxing more on the rich is stupid.  It's forcing people who are incredibly successful and hard working to give money to someone who does nothing (most of the time, there are people who in fact are in need desperately of such care).  Not saying everyone on welfare doesn't need it, but a majority of them don't and could get a job and fend for themselves, it is a system that punishes being successful and rewards people who do nothing.

No need to call my views retarded either, many people see the same as me and many the same as you.

Edited by djp771133, 07 November 2012 - 06:53 PM.


#22 Nelehx

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:28 PM

View Postdjp771133, on 07 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

I'd like to talk about a real issue here.  Do you even lift?

But honestly, what I was trying to say is that Romney has a clear plan for the economy and what did Obama have... A speech? Obama tries to fix the economy by spending more money, government bailouts stimulus package etc.  I have a feeling that Romney's plan would have worked because of his obvious undeniable success in the business world.  He is a person I would trust to have good insightful knowledge about how to rebuild the US economy.  Another thing is that Romney isn't a hardcore conservative, he has actually gone more to the middle and it's probably the reason that he even got that close to being elected.

Welfare is almost rewarding to people who do nothing.  A majority of people on welfare are able-bodied people who choose to do nothing and mooch off people who have made something for themselves.  Taxing more on the rich is stupid.  It's forcing people who are incredibly successful and hard working to give money to someone who does nothing (most of the time, there are people who in fact are in need desperately of such care).  Not saying everyone on welfare doesn't need it, but a majority of them don't and could get a job and fend for themselves, it is a system that punishes being successful and rewards people who do nothing.

No need to call my views retarded either, many people see the same as me and many the same as you.

first of all i do lift, atleast im not an embarassing nerd like you calling other people small while you dont even have a profile picture of yourself (how ugly are u m8)
and fyi looks and how much you lift should not matter in a forum, but being a conservative and hiding your face online doesn't make you look like the biggest pussymagnet IRL, so you know, and i bet my right testicle i get way more pussy than you ever will, if you actually care about that stuff

second of all, you seem into politics so you must know every opposition has an "incredible plan" how to fix the economy, but how well do you think it will work in action ?
making us's economy more liberal (invisible hand runing the market, everyone does whatever they want etc) how in the flying fuck will that fix US economy when THE COMPANIES PAY NONE CLOSE TO ZERO TAXES ????????

US problems is not with the people its the country that has absolutely zero , thats why you need some welfare
how is romney gonna fix all problems with no welfare, and the rich people paying less taxes?

i agree everyone should pay the same amount of taxes, but what you are basically saying is that no one should pay taxes, and that leaves no room for the good stuff a welfare country can bring

and romney obviously says he is more "middle" than he usually is so he can get more votes, everyone does it thats why i know he (like most politicians) are full of bullshit, especially making a country more conservative (because that is what he is gonna do, if you dont agree to that you are biased)

id also like to end by saying welfare brings every one stuff, more equality, sick cunt infrastructure, less private hospitals (why does it even exist)

and..... let me tell you how shit you are from a liberal/conservative perspective (your perspective)... [because the more you have the better you are, therefore poor and shit peoples lives should suck]
you have 0 glad titles so you are worthless. it's your own fault you did not get gladiator, therefore it's your fault you suck and that your life sucks

also majority of young people are idealist, unlike you who just has a very boring view on life and i feel sorry for you (no im not gay, woman or communist)

Edited by Nelehx, 07 November 2012 - 07:29 PM.

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#23 Nelehx

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

View Postdjp771133, on 07 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

hey im huge gay-hating faggot who calls other people small, while i dont even show my face online XD

im conservative because obama is a social nigger who is lying XD
we can fix this country by not having welfare and letting everyone do what they want (just like it was before obama, very good for the country)

i hate immigration, faggots, and women who think they have right xD
welfare is bad for country, just look at the welfare countries !!! us much better XD

i have never heard of keynes welfare plan that once saved the US !! fuck welfare

btw i changed your post for people who doesn't like to read alot
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#24 Nelehx

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

how do i rep myself :S
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Posted 07 November 2012 - 07:59 PM

Know a few things people:
1. Regardless of who is president, you and you alone decide your future.
2. Your situation whatever it may be, is 100% because of you and your choices throughout your life. No other entity is responsible for your life or can be blamed in anyway for how your life is right now. You either accept this, or face a life of mediocrity.
3. The government should never do for someone what they can and are able to do for themselves, but choose not to.
4. Leadership is influence. Read any book on leadership and you will learn they all boil down to influence. To lead is the ability to get people to do things not because they have to, but because they want to.
5. Obama indeed has influence that is inherent with his position. Unfortunately, he uses it in a very dishonorable way. His goal is to convince the masses that without him or his party, that you cant achieve what you want. If you elect him, he can enable you to have what you want which is simply and utterly false. The real truth isyou dont need obama or Romney or anyone other than yourself to have whatever dreams you posses.

Lastly, ill leave this quote from Alexander Fraser Tytler:

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policyalways followed by a dictatorship."

Now flame away because I know its extremely unpopular for me to speak of information that carries the burden of personal responsibility for ones' life.

Edited by brosearch, 07 November 2012 - 08:01 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:18 PM

View Postdjp771133, on 07 November 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

I have a feeling that Romney's plan would have worked because of his obvious undeniable success in the business world.

My grandfather was a very succesful businessman. Co-owned a company and worked day and night for 40 years. He started with nothing, joined the military, and then used his knowledge of computers to start a business. He treated all of his employees fairly, gave benefits, gave holidays, bonuses, etc. He made sure that all of his workers would be keeping their jobs when he sold. He is now able to comfortably retire and never have to worry about money ever again. That is the type of business man that should be idolized. I always assumed he was republican, but never really talked about it. This election was the first presidential election I could vote in, and I discussed it with my grandfather. He told me that if he had to choose between Obama and Rmoney, he would choose Obama every time. He, being both a businessman and a veteran, said we need someone with conviction. Someone who doesn't bend to please the masses. Someone who doesn't lie to make the poles look better.

Rmoney got rich by abusing Capitalism. Outsourcing jobs, cutting benefits, getting around paying taxes. That isn't the type of person you want running a country. His own state didn't even vote for him, and his approval rating was dismal.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:02 PM

View PostNelehx, on 07 November 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

first of all i do lift, atleast im not an embarassing nerd like you calling other people small while you dont even have a profile picture of yourself (how ugly are u m8)
and fyi looks and how much you lift should not matter in a forum, but being a conservative and hiding your face online doesn't make you look like the biggest pussymagnet IRL, so you know, and i bet my right testicle i get way more pussy than you ever will, if you actually care about that stuff

my bad, forgot foreigners don't understand sarcasm... :P all in good fun mate :D

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

View PostNelehx, on 07 November 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

second of all, you seem into politics so you must know every opposition has an "incredible plan" how to fix the economy, but how well do you think it will work in action ?
making us's economy more liberal (invisible hand runing the market, everyone does whatever they want etc) how in the flying fuck will that fix US economy when THE COMPANIES PAY NONE CLOSE TO ZERO TAXES ????????

So, addressing the first part you say everyone has an "incredible plan" I know that of course, what I was saying if you read my post was that Romney has his "incredible plan" and all Obama has is a speech.  Meaning, Obama didn't even have an "incredible plan" which would lead me and many others to believe that Romney is far more qualified to fix the economy than Obama.

In your posts in general, you talk about liberal and conservative, but you seem to have no grasp on what they mean.  Maybe you do, and in other languages to english translations they are used interchangeably.  Also, I'm not sure what you mean by a "more liberal economy" maybe another translation thing.  I would be in favor of a more capitalist approach to economy, which I think Romney would be better at.  Where as I think Obama would be more likely to have socialist type fixes to the economy, which I am not a fan of.





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