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[Bonjourhihi]

Nadagast, on 12 November 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:

Yeah I'm pretty sure that Affliction and Destruction are just terrible specs.  Demo is pretty solid right now though...  Hm.  Interesting.  

I may have to try some LSD!

a true warlock would never ever play demo, warlock = affliction that's all

[Barashade]

Slipnslidejr, on 13 November 2012 - 12:23 AM, said:

Nada Destro owns

Owns what, itself?

[Slipnslidejr]

Barashade, on 13 November 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

Owns what, itself?

Considering I'm 50-0 in 3s and 40-1 in 5s as destro you tell me? All games were played legit

[Demonicsoul4]

Shed some light about destro slipnslide. Does haste reforge make it up for you with fast ember generation ? When i tried some destro felt like crit is the way to go for high chaos bolts.

[Barashade]

Demonicsoul4, on 13 November 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Shed some light about destro slipnslide. Does haste reforge make it up for you with fast ember generation ? When i tried some destro felt like crit is the way to go for high chaos bolts.

I can do that for him, Frost Mage.

Edited by Barashade, 13 November 2012 - 11:46 AM.

[Eiviyn]

Demonicsoul4, on 13 November 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Shed some light about destro slipnslide. Does haste reforge make it up for you with fast ember generation ? When i tried some destro felt like crit is the way to go for high chaos bolts.

My CBs went from 180k on 60% resi to 200k after reforging from crit to mastery. Furthermore my Ember Tap went from ~20% to ~25%.

Just from numbers alone, I'd recommend mastery.

Interested to hear what Slipnslide says though.

[sibellx]

I am running Shadowplay... Tried as affli and got to 2370, but felt it was really unsure and the dmg is really crap so going to try out demo more now and see how it works.

[Slipnslidejr]

Demonicsoul4, on 13 November 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Shed some light about destro slipnslide. Does haste reforge make it up for you with fast ember generation ? When i tried some destro felt like crit is the way to go for high chaos bolts.

Personally I haven't really done math on it, but from what I have experimented with Mastery is your best secondary stat for destro. I like getting haste to 10%, 10% seemed to make my rotation flow nicely without effecting my damage that significantly. Also at 10% you gain extra immolate ticks which gives you more burning embers. While crit gives you larger chaos bolts and in theory more embers, Mastery just increases your overall damage and survivability by a lot more.

[Slipnslidejr]

Barashade, on 13 November 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

I can do that for him, Frost Mage.

I went 30-4 on my alt with around 2350 mmr as feral lock monk as well. So in reality your insightful theory about destro would seem to be incorrect.

[Canadianpimp_613638]

You can also 100% off get a backdrafted Chaos Bolt off inside of a Sfury or Coil. Are you saccing imp when playing with a mage?

[Nadagast]

Slipnslidejr, on 13 November 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

I went 30-4 on my alt with around 2350 mmr as feral lock monk as well. So in reality your insightful theory about destro would seem to be incorrect.

I really don't usually like it when people say this, but is it possible you're just playing on a poopy BG?  Or you're just getting lucky queuing streaks?  Because nobody is gonna go 50-0 queuing into teams that are remotely close in skill level to them.  I have a very very hard time seeing Destro be anywhere close to Demo right now in overall power, but I'm open to having my mind changed.

Edited by Nadagast, 13 November 2012 - 07:45 PM.

[spaceship]

Stormstrike was fairly poopy last season when you could still queue into Nightfall teams. Now that everyone has moved West I would imagine it to be even poopier.

[Florenz]

s6 s8 RMP , s10 RMP, s11 RPS , Thug
Sub rogue, & on MM hunter KFC or Kittycleave, it's a shame, because BM is not fun :<

[Slipnslidejr]

Nadagast, on 13 November 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

I really don't usually like it when people say this, but is it possible you're just playing on a poopy BG?  Or you're just getting lucky queuing streaks?  Because nobody is gonna go 50-0 queuing into teams that are remotely close in skill level to them.  I have a very very hard time seeing Destro be anywhere close to Demo right now in overall power, but I'm open to having my mind changed.

Why you are right that it isn't being played on bg9, The teams we played were mostly against 2.4k mmr + teams including teams from KT and most ppl were running the most common comps. So it isn't like we are playing random comps, and I find being able to chaos bolt a deep freeze really nice.

[Slipnslidejr]

Slipnslidejr, on 13 November 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

While you are right that it isn't being played on bg9, The teams we played were mostly against 2.4k mmr + teams including teams from KT and most ppl were running the most common comps. So it isn't like we are playing random comps, and I find being able to chaos bolt a deep freeze really nice.

[brosearch]

mr slipnslide-

First of all, I don't have anything against you. I'm sure me disclaiming that ahead of time will still yield ill will toward me for saying this. Having said all of that, why did you and your buddy both buy rank1 accounts? Everyone knows it when people buy rank1 accounts. What is the point man? Just be real I mean its just a game. Again no hate dog just trying to keep it real.

Edited by brosearch, 16 November 2012 - 11:11 PM.

[Rith]

Smir, on 08 November 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

with no ms you normally use wrathguard
and with a (e.g.) war u use grimoire of service and felguard, they do a lot of dmg


you dont sacc

I like the sac spec a lot. You can easily get a new pet out after demon soul. The charge is also kind of nice too for charge --> AOE fear. My lock is no where near fully geared (t1 wpn only) and I get like 180k ~ 200k chaos wave crits. I'd def like to hear what kind of numbers people get with T2.

I find the felguard really annoying when I fight mages for example because my pets constantly nova'd and cc'd. Just having the flexibility of sacing it for more dmg can be nice too.

I recommend trying the sac over the 2 pet thing.

[Nadagast]

Well, now that the aura has been nerfed into the ground, anyone having any success as any comp/spec?  I have not played 5.1 yet, but I am afraid Warlocks will have no solid specs and only second-third tier comps.  

[DkH.ZeRa]

as you said: mages could replace you in nearly every comp. but i still like to play with a mage as destro in MLS. also want to try uh dk / afflock / healer.

arena needs some afflock buffs.

RBG is still much fun as destro. also dual destro + dual mage. ; )

[Canadianpimp_613638]

So Demo's pretty done now. I played it for a few games yesterday but the lack of the one-shot threat means that teams can play way more offensive against you, and that was the one thing Demo had going for it even after the aura nerf.

I tried Destro shadowplay after and it seemed ok, especially with buffed KJC and Conflag generating embers actually helps a lot. I'm saccing Imp vs most teams for healer dispel. I'd imagine Destro MLD/MLS would be one of our only Tier comps now.