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[phishy]

zaeya, on 07 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

The grind for pvp gear is *exactly* the same amount of time commitment as before. The cost of pvp gear did not go up, the limit of the quantity you can acquire during one week increased. I'm really confused as to why anyone is complaining about this, the only difference is that it will take significantly fewer resets to gear to full T1/2.

its not the same if the amount of points gained per win is still the same. no, it's not the end of the world, but for people with multiple alts or stuff to do outside of wow it is more time consuming then before, especially if you are doing rbgs. and of course, the fact that rbgs give such a higher point cap is still ridiculous

[Ayrasaurus]

phishy, on 07 November 2012 - 01:26 AM, said:

180 points per arena win

i'm over this

blizzard's philosophy: well pve is a grind why not make pvp one too!

WHAT are you moaning about having a high cap?

How about you only do the amount of points you got before the buff to conq lol.


People seem to always complain about something...

Edited by Ayraswag, 08 November 2012 - 11:01 AM.

[iovetp]

Ayraswag, on 08 November 2012 - 10:59 AM, said:

WHAT are you moaning about having a high cap?

How about you only do the amount of points you got before the buff to conq lol.


People seem to always complain about something...

they complain because they would rather sit their team than play the game.

the only complaint I have really is that I find it retarded that I can't play 3v3 this week because I don't have t2 yet (started mop 2 weeks late) which is fair probably, the people who have been playing longer get gear faster but I can't wait until later in the season when everyone is equally geared, that's the time I most enjoy playing because it's more balanced. with all the imbalances arena has right now the last thing I want to worry about is gear differences

[zaeya]

phishy, on 08 November 2012 - 09:40 AM, said:

its not the same if the amount of points gained per win is still the same. no, it's not the end of the world, but for people with multiple alts or stuff to do outside of wow it is more time consuming then before, especially if you are doing rbgs. and of course, the fact that rbgs give such a higher point cap is still ridiculous

Let me help you with the logic here. I know it's pretty complicated, so I've broken it down for you:

Before the increase to conquest point cap:

A = Arena wins required to be fully geared
R = RBG wins required to be fully geared

p = points per arena win = 180
g = points per rbg win = 400

h = helm = 2250
n = neck = 1250
s = shoulders = 1750
b = back = 1250
c = chest = 2250
w = wrist = 1250
a = waist = 1750
l = legs = 2250
f = finger = 1250
e = feet = 1750
t = trinket = 1750
w = weapon = 2500

Assuming we are gearing for T2, and I'm a caster and doing only arena games for cap, this results in the following complex algebraic expression:

A ~ h+n+s+b+c+w+a+l+2f+e+2t+4w/p

Substitute the values:

A ~ (2250+1250+1750+1250+2250+1250+1750+2250+2(1250)+1750+2(1750)+4(2500))/180

Distribute the coefficients:

A ~ (2250+1250+1750+1250+2250+1250+1750+2250+2500+1750+3500+10000)/180

Order of operations!

A ~ 31750/180

Reduce! (see Chart a)

A ~ 3175/18 ~ 177

Chart a


After the increase to conquest point cap:

See Above.


For practice, solve for R!

Again, I reiterate... it is the same amount of time, the difference is that you can condense the PERIOD in which you obtain your gear. 177 wins over ~14 weeks is the same as 177 wins over ~9 weeks. Most of us have 177+ wins during the first 1-3 weeks, so this new increase in points we can obtain in a week's time causes obtaining gear to feel less grindy and playing often to be perceived as being more rewarding. That being said, you're the one choosing to cap your alts to keep up with others in gear. Blizzard isn't making your gear progression feel grindy; you are.

Edited by zaeya, 08 November 2012 - 07:16 PM.

[Virral]

zaeya, on 08 November 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Chart a


After the increase to conquest point cap:

Even made a motherfucking pie chart. Get told.

Edited by Virral, 08 November 2012 - 08:47 PM.

[Djandawg]

zaeya, on 08 November 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Let me help you with the logic here. I know it's pretty complicated, so I've broken it down for you:

Spoiler

Before the increase to conquest point cap:

A = Arena wins required to be fully geared
R = RBG wins required to be fully geared

p = points per arena win = 180
g = points per rbg win = 400

h = helm = 2250
n = neck = 1250
s = shoulders = 1750
b = back = 1250
c = chest = 2250
w = wrist = 1250
a = waist = 1750
l = legs = 2250
f = finger = 1250
e = feet = 1750
t = trinket = 1750
w = weapon = 2500

Assuming we are gearing for T2, and I'm a caster and doing only arena games for cap, this results in the following complex algebraic expression:

A ~ h+n+s+b+c+w+a+l+2f+e+2t+4w/p

Substitute the values:

A ~ (2250+1250+1750+1250+2250+1250+1750+2250+2(1250)+1750+2(1750)+4(2500))/180

Distribute the coefficients:

A ~ (2250+1250+1750+1250+2250+1250+1750+2250+2500+1750+3500+10000)/180

Order of operations!

A ~ 31750/180

Reduce! (see Chart a)

A ~ 3175/18 ~ 177




After the increase to conquest point cap:

See Above.


For practice, solve for R!

Chart a

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[Pootius_6592477]

Stigz, on 06 November 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

Now WTB equal cap from Arenas, no one in their right mind wants to play RBGs...

Speak for yourself, there are many of us who enjoy RBGs for the sake of competition.

[Bailamosx]

Turmoill, on 08 November 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

3700 cap at 2400 RBG, and 3100 arena cap at 2400. Dayyyyummm

2400 in arena is easier than 2400 RBGs right now.

[phishy]

well i'll admit i'm probably complaining too much over something minor, but I still find it annoying that rbgs have a higher cap. i guess i might just be in the minority that simply hates doing them so much to the point that it isnt worth the extra points and ill just have to live with being caught up in gear a month later than people that do them

[kannetixx]

Bailamosx, on 08 November 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

2400 in arena is easier than 2400 RBGs right now.

lol what?


oh you're bailamos

anything is easy when you pay for it brosama.

Edited by kannetixx, 09 November 2012 - 08:29 AM.

[Stigz]

Bailamosx, on 08 November 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

2400 in arena is easier than 2400 RBGs right now.

Yeah sure Mr. RBG Hero.

RBG takes no invidual skill and is boring as fuck exactly because of that.

[bakbuk]

3740 cap with 2467 rbg

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they fixed it, logged in with a 3100 cap instead of 2500 today