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[Diasleramo]

lol wow

[Hyuru]

Tosan, on 05 November 2012 - 07:06 AM, said:

I find it hilarious how they added a glyph to remove the GCD on Deep Freeze, only to have to almost counteract that by decreasing its duration, heh.

Think it was a pve thing

[Tosan]

Hyuru, on 05 November 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

Think it was a pve thing

Nay, they took the damage away from Deep Freeze against permanently stun-immune targets.

[acushi]

They should remove glyph of fireblast.  End of story.

[Hyuru]

Tosan, on 05 November 2012 - 07:35 AM, said:

Nay, they took the damage away from Deep Freeze against permanently stun-immune targets.

dunno then, this is the best explanation i could think of

[Zaephyr]

fuck this shit zorpep would know what to do

[Hyuru]

Zaephyr, on 05 November 2012 - 08:14 AM, said:

fuck this shit zorpep would know what to do

were you buddying yday?

[Zaephyr]

no mate i spammed 15 hours of bgs because its fun

[Hyuru]

Zaephyr, on 05 November 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

no mate i spammed 15 hours of bgs because its fun

+rep for dedication

[Chromix]

http://www.twitch.tv...84424?t=4h2m35s

[Tosan]

Chromix, on 05 November 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

http://www.twitch.tv...84424?t=4h2m35s

Newb, should have watched for the stacks, that would have saved you.  L2p

[kannetixx]

Chromix, on 05 November 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

http://www.twitch.tv...84424?t=4h2m35s

FUH?! FUH!? FUH!? VUH!? WHA? ........ something about strike FUH!? WHA?! WHA?!

quite possibly the best reaction ever.

[Mirionx]

kannetixx, on 05 November 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

FUH?! FUH!? FUH!? VUH!? WHA? ........ something about strike FUH!? WHA?! WHA?

What WHAT WHAT WHAT? WHAT HAPPENED?! WHAT WHAT

[Jacquelol]

Chromix, on 05 November 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

http://www.twitch.tv...84424?t=4h2m35s

clearly outplayedx

[Loveformoney]

Chromix, on 05 November 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

http://www.twitch.tv...84424?t=4h2m35s

And yet there are some warriors defending this shit >_<

[Siolith1993]

Am i doing it right guys?

[Djandawg]

Siolith1993, on 05 November 2012 - 01:47 PM, said:

Am i doing it right guys?

Judging from the initial screen of the video, you are doing it right.
You have a nice raid UI set up to maximize brainless warrior tunnelling.

[Loveformoney]

Quote

So this video has been getting around a lot lately, showing up in many different threads so let us just make this the main one for its discussion

05/11/2012 07:13Posted by AdeyemiYeah, because clearly you should be expecting a 200k+ HC strike. I'm sorry, but there's no way you can anticipate this kind of damage as it's completely RNG and you're dead before you can react.

Actually, in a way you can. If you monitor the Warriors buffs, you will be able to see the number of Taste for Blood (TFB) stacks that are building up and this is can indicate when the cooldowns are going to be popped and the big damage is incoming. So this allows you to be prepared for when they jump onto you and you can use your defensive cooldowns. Please understand that we are in no way saying that this damage is fine, but it does take a lot of work for a Warrior to do this and can be predicted.

I know that the theory is not the same as in practice and keeping constant tabs on the Warriors TFB stacks is not always possible. The main point that needs to be mentioned though is that the cooldowns you can see being blown in this video on their own, while a major damage increase, is not substantial enough to global a player unless used in conjunction with several stacks of TFB to create a HUGE heroic strike critical.

For a Warrior to build up enough stacks to global a player like seen in this video, they need a incredible amounts of up time to make sure the stacks of TFB do not fall off before getting a new one. To make it clearer, in 15 seconds they need to get a new stack of TFB and then repeat that, hoping their stacks do not fall off before the buff expires. Four or five TFB stacks are generally needed to pull off the Heroic Strike damage you see in the video on a well geared player and because of the changes in 5.1 these stacks while still possible to build, will not be as easy to get as they are now.

The main change that does this is the one to Avatar, which removes movement impairing effects rather than making you immune to them, this is because your up-time will not be nearly as high. This means that while you may very rarely still see a large heroic strike like this because someone is good enough or the Warrior is facing someone who is struggling to keep their distance, they will be less common. If a Warrior is good enough to build those stacks though, you can anticipate the incoming damage by watching their TFB stacks.

So this change to Avatar lowers two key issues with Warriors, mobility and burst and the Gag Order change helps with their control. Do not think that these change makes Warriors too controllable or weak in Arena, they will simply no longer be able to stick to a target constantly and build up TFB stacks, then afterwards global a player.

He's actually defending this piece of crap shit idiotic moronic dumb mongoloid piece of crap.

http://eu.battle.net...5473?page=6#107

Edited by Loveformoney, 06 November 2012 - 06:46 PM.

[Iambored]

Loveformoney, on 06 November 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

He's actually defending this piece of crap shit idiotic moronic dumb mongoloid piece of crap.

http://eu.battle.net...5473?page=6#107

Except he goes out of his way to say the damage is too high.

[GrieverZ]

Mirionx, on 05 November 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

What WHAT WHAT WHAT? WHAT HAPPENED?! WHAT WHAT

Don't mind him, he speaks american.