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Agi vs PvP-Power for Feral Druids

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#1 Miluu

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:45 AM

Hey Guys,
after Minpojke's article about Restoration Druids I thought about the Agi vs PvP-Power thingy for Ferals so I decided to do some Theorycrafting:

With PvP-Power in all Sockets:
Rake Ticks:5669     Rake Crits: 11678


Shred avg: 10922,67 Shred Crit avg: 22491,67


With Agility and PvP-Power Agiltiy in the Blue Sockets, Agi-Resil in the Yellow ones.
Rake Ticks: 5892                                    Rake Crits: 12139

Shred avg: 10907,67 Shred Crit avg: 22335


With Full Agility Sockets expect Shoulder (Agi Resil),Waist and Hands (Agi-PvP-Power) for the Socket Bonus of 60Agility.
Rake Ticks: 5998    Rake Crits: 12356

Shred avg: 10917,9    Shred Crit avg: 22441,7



I did like 100 Ticks and Shred hits/Crits for every value which is given here. =)

#2 Polke

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 07:52 AM

A couple questions:

Are you using the Heart of the Wild talent while recording this data?

Are you a JC using the Serpent's Eye Agility gem(s)?

Are any other professions contributing to this data?

What are you hitting to record everything? PvP power only works in PvP zones, so I'm making sure you took that into account when doing this.

Edited by Chzbrgr, 25 October 2012 - 07:54 AM.


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 11:15 AM

I'm really starting to lean towards agility atm. Absolutely horrendous playing with a 30% crit chance.

I'm using the JC agility gems and with the other slots, I've maxed PvP power. Got Resi/PvP power on the yellow slots. Intuitively it definitely feels like that going all out on agility, I'd get less damage (and less healing) in PvP overall but more reliable burst and combo point gain for faster bleed stacking.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:00 PM

Doesn't agility also give dodge? I also thought damage for pvp power works everywhere, it was just healing that only worked in pvp zones.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:59 AM

Ahm, after a lot for testing...
Agility is better if you want to have like more overall dmg, ur rip does about 10k more dmg over time if you go for agility but ur melee attacks shred mangle ravage do more dmg with pvp power.
It depends on the comb ur running, guess for FLS, the Agility geming is the best way to go, but if u play a burst setup like jungle or kitty pvp power should be the stat to gem for.

Tests were done without heart of the wild talent without savage roar on a target with 58% resil (leather). Im using entchanting and engineering.

Edited by Miluu, 26 October 2012 - 11:17 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:18 PM

red slotes = agi/resil
yellow slots = resil
blue slots = power/resil

feral druids are lot squisher now than they use to be and it seems like teams, especially strong physical damage comps like to hit ferals. With this setup im using i can still have the burst and it gives a lot better survivability. Its about 5-6% extra damage reduction if you gem this way.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:06 AM

guess it depends on the comb, if u play with a priest or paladin u should not gem for resil because of bubble and dispers. in all other setups I prefer in the yellow one's resil and the rest pvp power/pvp power agility.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

If you're playing a cleave like Kitty I think the absolute best is to gem resilience, being able to stay offensive is HUGE. However if you're playing feral,sp/mage,rshaman for example I think you have to gem a bit more offensive so you're able to do more pressure when cleaves are zerging your gandalf.

pretty interesting to see how much less pvp/resi you get compared to mainstat/stamina when you upgrade to epic pieces
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:53 AM

Nice post.




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