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#301 Kifasa

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostOhhiimMvp, on 20 December 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

Sprint > Sap? and open quicker than ever! And if you play Sub correctly and get your cc chain correctly, one smoke bomb is more than enough. I can take some one half way easily by myself with SHD up and my partner I rely on to take him the other half :P Not just that, I've noticed that as a rogue this season, you have to keep on offensive during your cds. If you don't have SHD or Prep, kite the living hell out of the other team because a rogue on defensive is going to die. So with prep, it just allows you to keep pressure on the other team a lot more for reasons I have said above.
Well... Target usually does not stay next to the healer and is mounted up...
But I guess I'll give it a try at least. What do You think about BoS btw?
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#302 AcerMVP

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:29 PM

View PostKifasa, on 20 December 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Well... Target usually does not stay next to the healer and is mounted up...
But I guess I'll give it a try at least. What do You think about BoS btw?

It's op for flag carrying if you have an amazing healer behind you for RBG's, but for arenas, it's meh. It takes you out stealth after it's over. I tried a Shadow Focus > BoS with a glyph of stealth, but people will see you instantly in arena and some how tag you any way and I rather use the energy I have for it to do dmg over getting out of snares(replace this with vanish and you're fine). No CD on it is nice, but the energy on it is meh, that's what makes me pick prep over this.

#303 AcerMVP

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:35 PM

Btw, if you do decide to flag carry as a rogue, please have a completely different set for this. As rogues defensive cds and shit are terrible atm. I would just farm a new pvp set and gem with Stam/Resil :P

#304 Kifasa

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

View PostOhhiimMvp, on 20 December 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

It's op for flag carrying if you have an amazing healer behind you for RBG's, but for arenas, it's meh. It takes you out stealth after it's over. I tried a Shadow Focus > BoS with a glyph of stealth, but people will see you instantly in arena and some how tag you any way and I rather use the energy I have for it to do dmg over getting out of snares(replace this with vanish and you're fine). No CD on it is nice, but the energy on it is meh, that's what makes me pick prep over this.
If only BoS could let us stay in stealth, would be awesome, but Nightstalker would remain even more useless... :P
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#305 originn

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:12 PM

Wtf is wrong with u guys. Why would u even attempt to flag carry as a rogue when u have classes like druids and warriors in the game. I think u guys need to take a break this season is having a serious effect on ur sanity :l

Edited by originn, 20 December 2012 - 07:14 PM.


#306 Kifasa

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

View Postoriginn, on 20 December 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Wtf is wrong with u guys. Why would u even attempt to flag carry as a rogue when u have classes like druids and warriors in the game. I think u guys need to take a break this season is having a serious effect on ur sanity :l
True story. Ferals run like a ***in retards...
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#307 AcerMVP

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:41 PM

Because we're trying to make use of rogues!

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

View PostKifasa, on 17 December 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

How about mages who kill us in 1 deep freeze? Or ferals... or shadow priests or... death knights or... (few more).
All in all, Rogues are good unless they meet another dps... :P

Not sure if serious? Rogues are in a really good state right now.  They were one of the only classes tuned correctly from the get go and have some of the best burst in the game.  Really don't see what all the fuss is about.  RLS is decent once again too!

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:08 AM

http://imageshack.us...2012233347.jpg/ pretty much sums up reason not to play a rogue.

Edited by inhume, 21 December 2012 - 05:09 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:30 AM

View PostPootius_6592477, on 20 December 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Not sure if serious? Rogues are in a really good state right now.  They were one of the only classes tuned correctly from the get go and have some of the best burst in the game.  Really don't see what all the fuss is about.  RLS is decent once again too!

what is your definition of RLS being decent and rogues being in a good state right now?

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:42 AM

View Postphishy, on 21 December 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

what is your definition of RLS being decent and rogues being in a good state right now?

http://us.battle.net...BODYS REROLLIN/
RLS with affliction lock; small sample size, still proves it works

#312 Kifasa

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 10:31 AM

View PostPootius_6592477, on 20 December 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Not sure if serious? Rogues are in a really good state right now.  They were one of the only classes tuned correctly from the get go and have some of the best burst in the game.  Really don't see what all the fuss is about.  RLS is decent once again too!
I basically started to think if I am playing another game... But then I realized You are not playing Rogue... Don't give us examples of single Rogues that somehow reached high rating. Better check the whole ladder. Compare how many Rogues overcame 2,2 and how many Warriors did. After this try to find a Rogue streaming his arenas and watch him dying in 3 seconds during stun from 100% to 0... (ussually with evasion and feint up anyway :P)
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:32 AM

View PostPootius_6592477, on 21 December 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

http://us.battle.net...BODYS REROLLIN/
RLS with affliction lock; small sample size, still proves it works

rls works

so does logging my warrior and never ever losing to a single rogue team

get outta here

#314 AcerMVP

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:54 PM

Like I said, remove dmg from Shockwave and rogues will surive much better in arenas. As inhume posted, 105k Shockwave? Really? Like I just don't understand why Blizzard would give warriors a stun that does damage well over 30% of our health. And RLS is fine with a demo lock, but once you hit that t1 - t2 difference, it will really destroy a rogue. I couldn't pass 2100 with RLS because of this. We would hit 2100 easily then just die like five games to cleave teams due to the dmg difference.




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