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#261 Tsx

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

View Postdrakuru, on 30 November 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

Rogue is fine, srs. A friend has 2,5 with it, it's mega balanced and has very strong swaps.

(btw another  rogue had also before the patch 2,5)
ok 2 rogues in eu got 2.5 , this class is good.

#262 tiifa

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:58 PM

why is faeire fire still 5 million years duration in pvp? doesnt make any sense, outdated mechanic, remove that shit already
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#263 Kifasa

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:37 PM

View Posttiifa, on 03 December 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

why is faeire fire still 5 million years duration in pvp? doesnt make any sense, outdated mechanic, remove that shit already
Yeah, I personally enjoy being feared into oblivion, not being dispelled because of cd and the time fear fades and I am out of combat I just love watching myself having fearie fire... Makes me wanna play more and more!

Edited by Kifasa, 03 December 2012 - 09:38 PM.

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Please nerf Rock. Paper is ok.

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#264 Literacola

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:56 AM

well maybe you should interrupt the fear
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:12 AM

View PostLiteracola, on 06 December 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

well maybe you should interrupt the fear
YES!! OMG YES!!!! WHY WHY DID IT NEVER OCCUR TO ME TO INTERRUPT THE INSTANT FEAR!!


ps: Does anybody else feel the need to just punch gc in the face in that front page picture?

#266 sounds

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

Official Blizzard Quote:

There are currently more Retribution Paladins than Rogues.


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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:30 AM

View Postoriginn, on 06 December 2012 - 02:12 AM, said:

YES!! OMG YES!!!! WHY WHY DID IT NEVER OCCUR TO ME TO INTERRUPT THE INSTANT FEAR!!


ps: Does anybody else feel the need to just punch gc in the face in that front page picture?

just kick it wtf

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:31 AM

kick ur fuckin head top off if u keep postin m8

#269 Speedymart

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

decided to 'level' my rogue and let it sit until 5.2 when it becomes the new god class
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#270 Kifasa

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

View PostSpeedymart, on 06 December 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

decided to 'level' my rogue and let it sit until 5.2 when it becomes the new god class
Do You have some inside info or You're counting for stochastic process? :D
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Please nerf Rock. Paper is ok.

-Scissors.

#271 Deyzx

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:14 PM

Patch 5.2 will bring more talent changes than Patch 5.1, but they will mostly be number tweaks. Rogue talents were mentioned as something that needs to be looked at.

apparently 2 more months until 5.2
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:43 PM

View PostDeyzx, on 06 December 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

Patch 5.2 will bring more talent changes than Patch 5.1, but they will mostly be number tweaks. Rogue talents were mentioned as something that needs to be looked at.

apparently 2 more months until 5.2
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/
In before we get overbuffed or they change nothing couse u know there is no middle ground with blizzard

#273 methodman2

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

takes them 2 months to give us step

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:29 PM

Probably not going to long in until 5.2 then. Really no fun at the moment, even if we can "scrape bye." Go-go LoL S3!
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I've never seen Redefined post anything dumb. +1

View PostXandyn, on 27 May 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

best Rogue on US

#275 WildeHilde

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:59 PM

Combat actually feels strong. Don't have the necessary skills to comment on higher ratings, but the numbers say that you can pretty much one-shot any player that doesn't have defensive cooldowns up while being immune to crowd control.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:03 AM

View PostWildeHilde, on 06 December 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Combat actually feels strong. Don't have the necessary skills to comment on higher ratings, but the numbers say that you can pretty much one-shot any player that doesn't have defensive cooldowns up while being immune to crowd control.
too many factors involved in that as soon as someone gets within killing spree distance all ur dmg is gone though the 8 sec kidnys would be pretty nice for my mage partner

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:14 AM

Focus Shiv with Paralytic -> ShS -> Spree works pretty good. I am unsure if it works all the time, but I had several times where I followed players through warlock/monk portals, blink and Displacer Beast. The control with Glyph of Garotte, 8 second Kidney and Paralytic is decent. As restealths are more control-oriented Subterfuge is the better choice. So you can Nerve-Strike / Cheap Shot enemy players and have peels that can compare with a warrior (root, stun, disarm, disorient, silence, slow). Really hope some of the better rogues take a closer look at combat.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:22 AM

View PostRedefined, on 06 December 2012 - 10:29 PM, said:

Probably not going to long in until 5.2 then. Really no fun at the moment, even if we can "scrape bye." Go-go LoL S3!

Im feeling the same.
crazier than a bag of fucking angel dust

#279 Kifasa

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:04 AM

View PostWildeHilde, on 07 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

Focus Shiv with Paralytic -> ShS -> Spree works pretty good. I am unsure if it works all the time, but I had several times where I followed players through warlock/monk portals, blink and Displacer Beast. The control with Glyph of Garotte, 8 second Kidney and Paralytic is decent. As restealths are more control-oriented Subterfuge is the better choice. So you can Nerve-Strike / Cheap Shot enemy players and have peels that can compare with a warrior (root, stun, disarm, disorient, silence, slow). Really hope some of the better rogues take a closer look at combat.
Longer Kidney Shot and Killing Spree are tempting, but personally I use Shadow Dance so many times to sap/re-sap, especially now that I got only 1 vanish... Another thing is that Shadow Dance gives You possibility to Cheap Shot everyone for 5 sec in short period of time providing Nerve-Strike that You mentioned. Not saying about situations, when I have no defensive cds, my health is going down rapidly and the only thing I can do is to pop Shadow Dance and stun the opponent. All in all, Shadow Dance is just too good to get rid of it.

Edited by Kifasa, 07 December 2012 - 06:04 AM.

Dear Blizzard,
Please nerf Rock. Paper is ok.

-Scissors.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 06:33 AM

combat is mostly how it has always been: great on paper, but not in practice. granted, it's better than it has been compared to past seasons, but that's mostly just because step is available to it now.

main problem with combat right now is that it requires so much ramp up time for its burst(AR) or bad positioning from the opposing team(kspree). AR is so easily avoided by simply focusing the rogue or CCing the rogue. at least with dance you can get through half your burst before being peeled in most cases

losing out on dance, especially with the now reduced cd of blind, hurts a lot.

8 second kidneys is probably the most reliable part of the spec, which is awesome in a game that is so bad in design that mere 3-4 second stuns can equal death. i still want to try the spec a little more(havent since i was able to upgrade to t1 weps from heroic weps), but wth the current state of the game where 3 seconds of burst is more reliable than steady, increased dmg for 15 seconds, dance just works out better more often from what i've seen

edit: on the bright side, nice to see blizzard has finally realized that an entire class is being played less than ret paladins. hopefully it won't talk half a year from expac release to become relevant again. very timely

Edited by phishy, 07 December 2012 - 06:36 AM.





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