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#241 Jaadyn

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:06 PM

It's not like rogues even got the changes they truly needed. Other classes simply got nerfed and rogues became slightly more playable. Still have a long way to go. :/

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:44 AM

View PostJaadyn, on 29 November 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

It's not like rogues even got the changes they truly needed. Other classes simply got nerfed and rogues became slightly more playable. Still have a long way to go. :/
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#243 Eradication

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

View PostJaadyn, on 29 November 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

It's not like rogues even got the changes they truly needed. Other classes simply got nerfed and rogues became slightly more playable. Still have a long way to go. :/
upvoted for truth :(

#244 Kifasa

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:41 PM

Hmm... Mastery and PvP Power started to give some nice results. Today I had 110k Evis crit on full resi Ret with my 370ilvl dagger, which was quite optimistic... :D
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#245 varellz

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:55 PM

obviously because of the pvppower buff on weapons.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

Rogue is fine, srs. A friend has 2,5 with it, it's mega balanced and has very strong swaps.

(btw another  rogue had also before the patch 2,5)

Edited by drakuru, 30 November 2012 - 11:04 PM.

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#247 Isumi

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:32 PM

rogue damage is completly fine, not so much sustained damage but good burst dmg, especially with upgraded t2 weapons.

have to fix survivability and mobility a bit and rogue is fixed

#248 Justblaze

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:57 AM

View Postdrakuru, on 30 November 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

Rogue is fine, srs. A friend has 2,5 with it, it's mega balanced and has very strong swaps.

(btw another  rogue had also before the patch 2,5)

not sure, cannot sense trolling or serious lol

#249 Honeyloopxd

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 02:06 AM

There are way to many broken cds, talents & abilites atm witch makes the game major fucked. Rogue are in a good state. But come out bad becaus of other classes being too strong, warriors for example, still got more then twice as good mobility and quite better survive as well. I think its the other classes thats being the issue atm imo.

I will start playing my rogue as soon as I get my new pc :( but I still dont see that there would be any issues getting decent rate as rogue now after 5.1

#250 Kifasa

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:32 AM

View PostIsumi, on 30 November 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

rogue damage is completly fine, not so much sustained damage but good burst dmg, especially with upgraded t2 weapons.

have to fix survivability and mobility a bit and rogue is fixed
I don't have T2 yet, but I totally agree. Rogue burst is fine, survivability and mobility still sucks tho...
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#251 methodman2

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:37 AM

played some kfc on my 470 ilvl warrior yday with a random pala from trade chat


got 2400 in 1 session.

seems to me that rogues arent bad its a l2p issue xD

#252 zkype

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:08 PM

View Postmethodman2, on 01 December 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

played some kfc on my 470 ilvl warrior yday with a random pala from trade chat


got 2400 in 1 session.

seems to me that rogues arent bad its a l2p issue xD

yeah, l2p
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#253 infectionx

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

View Postmethodman2, on 01 December 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

played some kfc on my 470 ilvl warrior yday with a random pala from trade chat


got 2400 in 1 session.

seems to me that rogues arent bad its a l2p issue xD
Duh, you are just a secret talent in this hard class :warrior: , you found out because of the current rogue state! Be thankful!
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#254 zkype

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:41 PM

what do you guys think bout RMS after 5.1? I cant really decide what I think bout it, I do more dmg, but peeling your shaman is harder.
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#255 Virral

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:59 AM

Queued into about 5 different rogue teams yesterday, all at 2k-2100 mmr range. RMS, RPS and thug cleave. The mage variants all work pretty well and gave us good matches, but the rogues had to still play VERY defensively.

#256 Jaadyn

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:15 AM

It boggles my mind why people keep saying the same things over and over, that rogues need sustained damage, survivability and mobility tweaks, and then they'll be fine (which is all true) but don't fucking say they're balanced and other classes need to be nerfed because of it. We're the closest to balanced, and still so far from at the same time. Other classes got amazing upgrades for the expansion. We're just living in the past right now. :/

And all your rogues that were 2.4k+ either played with a warrior, hunter, or mage. Maybe one or two rogues managed with an spriest or warlock. It's not really hard to have played with any of those classes pre-5.1 and gotten high with them.

11 classes and rogues rock 3% representation. But they're "okay", and every 11 season gladiator rogue who didn't choose to play with a mage or hunter pre-5.1 all feel completely demoralized and either rerolled or quit the game is an obvious sign that rogues are just okay.. yarite.


Tell me how fucking fun this game is when any time your healer is disabled, you run the risk of dying right away, whereas when you don't get a kill inside one window of CC with your CDs up, you've probably lost.

Fix the class and the game, please.

It's not fun any more.

And please don't talk about your accomplishments if you're running a rogue/mage/X comp. x:

Edited by Jaadyn, 03 December 2012 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:39 AM

hello i reached 2.5k this season in 5.1 ! i guess rogue is not dat bad anymore .
but ye still didnt played that much to say anything. :P

Edited by dardanuka, 03 December 2012 - 11:41 AM.

no limits !!

#258 sharkoulolz

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:25 PM

Rogue seems fine with 5.1 its a stupid gameplay but yea nothing else to say

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:51 PM

Just be thankful you are not s10/s11 warrior.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:52 PM

View Postdjp771133, on 03 December 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Just be thankful you are not s10/s11 warrior.

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