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#201 phishy

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:46 AM

View Postzkype, on 27 November 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

Well, since I live in a really fucking small city during the weeks since I study here there is really nothing else to do, the people I play with are my IRL mates and we've always played together diffrent setups etc. Now when I look back at it I have no idea how the fuck managed to get 2,3k tho.



I will  have to agree, most people dont understand how easy it is killing a rogue, but all teams we face are not bads, we've won vs some pretty good names also.



Indeed, today I realized that alot of things I do does not have any impact on the game, I could use a bot instead of playing my self, its so easy playing a rogue.



*EDIT*  
I have not played a single game of arena in cataclysm, thats maybe why Im not killing myself since I dont really know what to compare my class to, I stopped late season 8 when and this might sound fun to you guys, but right now Im actually enjoying this class quite alot

I was exaggerating sorry. Had just gotten out of quite a few games where i was trained from start to finish. Lost most of them just because i could never go offensive. Granted, teams can often just CC the rogue for the majority of a match if they have a lot of roots and have a lot of success that way. Our mobility is just shit right now.

Rogues can facilitate mages quite well as they always have, but unfortunately right now we're still more of a liability than other classes when teaming up with them.

congrats on your success tho regardless of what comp you're playing. not easy right now

#202 phishy

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

View PostWildeHilde, on 27 November 2012 - 06:53 AM, said:

Did any of you actually try to gem for resilience? With Elusiveness, Glyph of Feint and resilience gems damage during burst is still decent and rogues are actually pretty hard to kill because of the multiplicative increase on resilience effectiveness through Elusiveness.

Been thinking about it more and more given how many teams are training me. just havent been able arena much as of late. losing out on cheat death can be rough in some situations tho with deep freeze and shockwave

#203 Kifasa

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:27 AM

View Postoriginn, on 27 November 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

Stop it! stop being so nice! its not natural damn it! =[
Ok, ok... I'll try to be more Rogue like... so... S**t up already! ;)
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#204 originn

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

View PostKifasa, on 27 November 2012 - 08:27 AM, said:

Ok, ok... I'll try to be more Rogue like... so... S**t up already! ;)
Thats more like it! :D

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:30 AM

i dont know why anybody uses feint. it is terrible, you should never die when your healer isnt in CC and most of the time you still die through a coordinated deep freeze or shockwave anyway xD

there have been quite a few games where i died previously using feint when cheat death would have saved me, and multiple situations where it has.

edit: not to say cheat death doesnt have it's flaws though... you gotta love those 10 hp cheat death procs with over 60% resilience

Edited by methodman2, 27 November 2012 - 09:33 AM.


#206 ApplejackxD

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:32 AM

View Postkhuna, on 18 October 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

:)

12 reps for that from fellow rogues, khuna you are popular it seems!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

View PostNicetrylawl, on 27 November 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

Damn is EU that much different? Haven't played a single game yet where I didn't get tunneled.


for us it's like this, me and hydra outplay sp/mage comps so bad by surviving deep swaps and everything else on me

then the mage gets a deep off on him and the shadow priest solos him while the mage is in a full lock out xD

most wizcleaves just go on our priest, because the class is really dire

#208 Silhin

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:44 AM

So looks like the Patch Goes Live Today and the changes to rogue well ...

They Might aswell not change anything Rogue still suck In mobility and sustained damage and the part where Any class with a stun takes you from 100% to 20% Sadly iam Hangin up my Rogue for this season Good bye old Friend the NEW S5 warrior class!

#209 Silhin

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:44 AM

So looks like the Patch Goes Live Today and the changes to rogue well ...

They Might aswell not change anything Rogue still suck In mobility and sustained damage and the part where Any class with a stun takes you from 100% to 20% Sadly iam Hangin up my Rogue for this season Good bye old Friend the NEW S5 warrior class!

#210 varellz

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:57 AM

sick rogue changes, gameplay will be fun again !

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#211 Raak

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:09 PM

View PostApplejackxD, on 27 November 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

12 reps for that from fellow rogues, khuna you are popular it seems!

He could prolly post a picture of himself eating rotten mayo out of his own ass and the dickriders would still +rep him.
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#212 Virral

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:41 PM

Does the wound poison buff even make it worth using over deadly as sub/combat still? (afaik a lot of rogues have been using deadly even in pvp as all specs, correct me if I'm wrong haven't played rogue in a while)

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostVirral, on 27 November 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Does the wound poison buff even make it worth using over deadly as sub/combat still? (afaik a lot of rogues have been using deadly even in pvp as all specs, correct me if I'm wrong haven't played rogue in a while)
Servers arent up yet qtp. Its gonna be nice for wounding to do a bit of extra dmg but nothing special really i normally rock wounding just for the ms 90% of all kills come either from my mages burst or during dance so yeah

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:02 PM

It means until 5.2 any change.So this season will be gonna be clearly unplayable for the first time in 12 seasons.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:14 PM

didn't even realize they reverted the sprint change, not that it would have helped that much.

amazing ideas to easily implement that would not be over the top and could actual help rogue viability somewhat right now and have nothing to do with baseline shadowstep:

sprint glyph: sprint breaks roots
kspree glyph: kspree only hits your target
that improved stealth while stealthed ability: does something useful while in combat out of stealth

"NAH M8 that would make rogues like s11!"

#216 Deyzx

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

Vanish 2m CD

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:12 PM

Well the extra pvp power on weps seems to make dances absolutely retarded in terms of dmg and shuriken toss is critting for 20-25k and it seems vanish was put on a 2min cd. Im thinking of going orc for the stun reduction and picking up cheat death at the moment mobility is not great but i can usually manage our biggest flaw really is dying in stuns hopefully orc+cheat death will make a difference. Il post again after testing it out fellow rogues  :)

Edited by originn, 27 November 2012 - 08:13 PM.


#218 zkype

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

sounds promising!
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:30 PM

View PostDeyzx, on 27 November 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Vanish 2m CD

why is the best rogue change not on patch notes? i hope this isnt a bug :(

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:36 PM

View Postoriginn, on 27 November 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

Stop it! stop being so nice! its not natural damn it! =[

I AGREE , i can't tell if they're being sarcastic or not :(




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