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#1 sharkoulolz

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:03 PM

The cooldown of Sprint has been reduced to 45 seconds (was 1 minute).
    The cooldown of Blind has been reduced to 1 minute (was 3 minutes).
    The energy cost of the Burst of Speed talent has been reduced to 50 energy (was 60 energy).
    Wound Poison now deals 33% more damage.


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#2 Redefined

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:04 PM

Just posted that to the previous thread:

Wow, that Blind change is quite nice. Much more similar to Warrior's new Intimidating Shout. Huge change, I'm excited!

Lower Sprint CD is always nice, but I think Vanish needs a similar treatment as well.

The reduced energy cost of BoS is decent, but I can't see taking it over Shadowstep right now, it is 100000% a necessity.

Wound Poison damage increase? Meh, at least now people won't be using much Deadly Poison except for Mutilate.

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View PostXandyn, on 27 May 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

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#3 khuna

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:07 PM

:)

#4 sharkoulolz

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:09 PM

at least its a start, now im waiting for preparation :< gogo blizz!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:57 PM

BoS still useless :<

but was easy to know that blizz is trying to fix that shitty new talent instead of buffing step/prep

Edited by varellol, 18 October 2012 - 05:58 PM.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:24 PM

Still waiting on Sstep to baseline with a talent replacing it to reduce the CD. Failing that, seeing sprint break roots would be great. These changes dont really help mobility. Im glad they changed blind though, that  was a great change. They said these notes werent final, so Im hoping they will keep the good changes coming.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:36 PM

Blind buff is a game changer, rogues need more then just this though, more notes coming hopefully

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:46 PM

View Postohnoes, on 18 October 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

Blind buff is a game changer, rogues need more then just this though, more notes coming hopefully

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:47 PM

View Postohnoes, on 18 October 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

Blind buff is a game changer, rogues need more then just this though, more notes coming hopefully
It's still early so it's safe to assume that there is a lot more to come, i fear though an overbuff(always possible with blizz) which will screw the already terrible game balance even further.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

Although the blind buff is nice since it allows for a blind/dance+sap every minute, this game does not need more cc's right now. Also addressing mobility by reducing sprint cd (because while rooted and snared all game that's useful) and barely nerfing BoS energy cost were the wrong ways to handle it. At least they're making an effort =\.

#11 Jimmyeh

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:56 PM

the blind buff was something that kinda had to happen, even tho i agree with virral about the cc stuff. but its only 'fair' to have blind on the same cd than warrior fear for an example.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:28 PM

View PostJimmyeh, on 18 October 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

the blind buff was something that kinda had to happen, even tho i agree with virral about the cc stuff. but its only 'fair' to have blind on the same cd than warrior fear for an example.

I would rather see intimidating shout cd get nerfed than see blind overbuffed to compensate and make it 'fair'.
CC isn't our problem, its mobility and sustained pressure.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

I don't think the blind change was needed. Giving people more CC on shorter cooldowns is just making the game boring. Give them a sustained damage buff, or defensive buffs...not more CC.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:40 PM

View PostVirral, on 18 October 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

I would rather see intimidating shout cd get nerfed than see blind overbuffed to compensate and make it 'fair'.
CC isn't our problem, its mobility and sustained pressure.

you are right, but then again i dont think they will be nerfing intimidating shout anytime soon. there is alot of other stuff that most likely will be dealt with (hopefully...) like avatar duration and being able to use it with recklessness and stuff like that.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:03 PM

This game need more control. Instant. Unavoidable. AOE (ups, blind failed here, but i think its temporary)
And i feel, Blizzard will remove dispell from PvP soon enough. And add some new "fun" control spells.

Then PvP will looks ideal (for Blizzard).

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:31 PM

Yaay lets add even more cc on less cd...

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:14 AM

I love all the people complaining about a 1min cd instant cc that has been that way for ages and was only recently set to 3mins while we have retarded shit like mages locks spriests druids and hunters running around but thats ok. As for the changes its def a step in the right direction but i hope this isnt all they have planned couse it wont be anywhere near enough its sickening how they tip toe around buffing shadowstep or giving rogues prep back yet nearly every other melee class in the game has about 2 ways to stay in melee range on a short cd

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:27 AM

View Postoriginn, on 19 October 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

I love all the people complaining about a 1min cd instant cc that has been that way for ages and was only recently set to 3mins

don't you just love being instantly CC'd for 20 - 30 seconds without being able to do anything to prevent it? I know I do! Fucking dumb trying to justify it being a 1 minute CD, nerf warrior fear instead blind was fine

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:30 AM

View PostMirionx, on 19 October 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

don't you just love being instantly CC'd for 20 - 30 seconds without being able to do anything to prevent it? I know I do! Fucking dumb trying to justify it being a 1 minute CD, nerf warrior fear instead blind was fine
Nerf warrior fear and psyfiend and u got a deal

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 12:47 AM

View PostPawzz, on 18 October 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

Yaay lets add even more cc on less cd...
Blind was fine atm 2min cd, it should have never been changed in the first place :/
The aoe warrior blind in 1min cd though on the other side.........
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