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#1 Zilea

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:02 PM



who is right in this discussion, Zilea or Champ and "Garbagemagex"?

#2 Poon

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:18 PM

Nerf mages, buff BM hunters

#3 Saikx

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:24 PM

well I´m in a deepfreeze, lets see...

50k lance wow thats nothing
50k lance ok still fine
50k lance ok nvm will be the last one anyways

meanwhile frostbomb ticking...., you not knowing about mage mechanics made you die. not the damage/burst that is INDEED too strong atm.

Edited by Saikx, 15 October 2012 - 08:24 PM.

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#4 Icekingx

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:05 PM

Just run double BM hunter and counter any mage teams you fight?

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#5 Tuxer

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostSaikx, on 15 October 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

well I´m in a deepfreeze, lets see...

50k lance wow thats nothing
50k lance ok still fine
50k lance ok nvm will be the last one anyways

meanwhile frostbomb ticking...., you not knowing about mage mechanics made you die. not the damage/burst that is INDEED too strong atm.

can't tell if retarded or just EU
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#6 Deyzx

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:33 PM

View PostSaikx, on 15 October 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

well I´m in a deepfreeze, lets see...

50k lance wow thats nothing
50k lance ok still fine
50k lance ok nvm will be the last one anyways

meanwhile frostbomb ticking...., you not knowing about mage mechanics made you die. not the damage/burst that is INDEED too strong atm.
are u retarded

#7 Unseenz

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:55 PM

View PostTuxer, on 15 October 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

can't tell if retarded or just EU


He's right... zilea sat a full deep with frost bomb on him, he should have bubbled instead of leaving the damage the frost bomb would do up to chance. 125k explosion is big but with cooldowns up its not unheard of. It was your own fault you died.

It makes sense that you would want to hold onto bubble watching the counterspell lockout, that since you had just come out of it you thought you were ok, but you really have to pay attention to the frost bomb because thats pretty much 75% of the mages burst. He didn't even use the fireblast glyph, so its not like it wasnt 100% predictable.

Edited by Unseenz, 15 October 2012 - 09:56 PM.


#8 Pritchard

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:03 PM

i have my own personal views on this, as I find frost bomb damage absurd, especially with trinkets up.  If a mage catches you in a lock and deeps you with no buffs on you you prolly will die, as you noticed you could have bubbled if he did not lock you.  The burst damage can be insanely high and broken. The one thing I slightly (disagree? i guess would be the word), is that no other class can solo you, if another of the high burst dmg classes (warrior hunter etc) had a lockout and a deep freeze on you with no buffs no trinket, they would also prolly solo you.  I personally feel that NO ability by itself should force defenses (ie frost bomb, stampede, chaos bolt [not that lock damage is broken, i just feel you shouldnt have to go full defense if one ability goes off, buff sustained damage instead]).  The game should be a wear down game, low damage low healing, but that will never happen.


Also having said that, your mages weren't paying attention (most likely joking around with comp i assume?).  My healer is full deeped and got locked, i'm not gonna be running around and chasing someone im gonna stop whats killing him, that was ~5 seconds of not getting peeled at all which could have perhaps stopped 1 or 2 of those lances and you would have lived(albeit low) and got around the corner and topped or bubbled.


just my 2c

#9 Icekingx

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

View PostUnseenz, on 15 October 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

He's right... zilea sat a full deep with frost bomb on him, he should have bubbled instead of leaving the damage the frost bomb would do up to chance. 125k explosion is big but with cooldowns up its not unheard of. It was your own fault you died.

It makes sense that you would want to hold onto bubble watching the counterspell lockout, that since you had just come out of it you thought you were ok, but you really have to pay attention to the frost bomb because thats pretty much 75% of the mages burst. He didn't even use the fireblast glyph, so its not like it wasnt 100% predictable.
Didn't he get locked? An then went into a full deep?

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

It takes more icelances than cata to kill someone, it's fine :P

View PostIcekingx, on 15 October 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

Didn't he get locked? An then went into a full deep?

He had enough time to bubble

Edited by infectionx, 15 October 2012 - 10:07 PM.

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#11 stalebagel

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 11:06 PM

yeah frostbomb dmg should definately be nerfed and it shouldn't be viable to just spam icelance into deep without fof procs
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:38 AM

You coincidentally forgot to make videos about bm hunter or warrior.
Classes without immunity or monster mobility regret stepping into arena after facing those.

Edited by Djandawg, 18 October 2012 - 12:51 AM.





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