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#21 Kettu

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:12 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Where did i ever say blink strike was good?

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

Blink strike is good

Thank you for clarifying that Blink Strike is single target damage. This is new information for me.

Let me clarify my statement too: If you need to swap as a BM hunter atm to kill someone, you are terrible. Just saying.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:17 PM

View PostKettu, on 08 October 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

Let me clarify my statement too: If you need to swap as a BM hunter atm to kill someone, you are terrible. Just saying.

? Good players can stop so much of a BM's damage

Video of blink vs lynx soon.

#23 Kettu

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

? Good players can stop so much of a BM's damage

Video of blink vs lynx soon.
How do you stop 500k damage within 0.1sec when you only have 350k hp? You don't LOL

Good luck with your blink video tho !

#24 Jokerplex

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:35 PM

Who the hell does 500k damage with blink strike




720p should be up soon


As you can see, Blink strike 43k. Non crit.

Lynx rush: 178k with minimal crits.

Edited by Jokerplex, 08 October 2012 - 01:42 PM.


#25 Kettu

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:49 PM

Yeah indeed, who the hell does 500k damage with _blink strike_  LOL. I've yet to meet such a person. Didn't really get the point of your video tho.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:50 PM

I really dont understand your point.

You think im hacking because i use blink strike?

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:00 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

I really dont understand your point.

k.

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

You think im hacking because i use blink strike?

Yeah, I clearly think you are hacking because you use blink strike :PPP

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:05 PM

Well thats the vibe i got from all your posts.

Cba this anymore, your a waste of time

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:08 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

your
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:15 PM

I liked the finale, good job.
Restoration shamans in season 11 According to
Felic:
And yeah they can survive for more than 30 seconds without casting. You have partners in 3v3 you know? SURPRISE

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:19 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 01:17 PM, said:

? Good players can stop so much of a BM's damage

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wVqc2tOdP1c#!

Yeah, if you're good, you can easily stop that.












JK

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:23 PM

Thanks just because stampede is broken....


as ive said 1000000 times

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:48 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 08 October 2012 - 02:05 PM, said:

Well thats the vibe i got from all your posts.

Cba this anymore, your a waste of time


WRONG REP
Restoration shamans in season 11 According to
Felic:
And yeah they can survive for more than 30 seconds without casting. You have partners in 3v3 you know? SURPRISE

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 02:52 PM

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:09 PM

View PostConradical, on 08 October 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

i love orange caramel :)

Ofcourse you do, phaggot.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 03:30 PM

A question on stampede:

It got changed that the pets summoned only do 25% of their normal damage, did they just screw up and not include the specials in this? I've checked the combat log a few times and seen 5x 25-30k claw/bite crits etc which seems to correlate with what the main pet does.
150k randomly from the stampeded pets isn't really fun.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:12 PM

I havn't read everything but I just wanted to note that this isn't me in the clip and this isn't the only clip out there. I can pull many others from streams if you want.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:26 PM

Started to que arena and haven't faced any other moonkins.

Knock knock. Hey is anyone out here, where the fuck did you all go?

Edited by Sideshift, 08 October 2012 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:46 PM

Dicegg I really don't see how you can keep arguing when you can clearly see that he is doing 300k dmg in 1-2 seconds on plate wearers.. It's like non-debatable?

Clearly you are doing something wrong, if you aren't getting same numbers as Kettux.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

To help everyone understand why they do so much damage. This is a copy paste from a post i read on WoW forums. I found it very informative.

A normal pet melee attack/Claw does about 6800-7000 damage depending on gear.
This is without any benefit from the Cd's/trinket/passives.

Now lets start adding the raw % bonus it gains from different spells/abilities.
+ 20% from Bestial Wrath
+ 30-35% from PVP power
+ 12.5% additional PVP power from Rapid fire and 4set bonus
+25% from Stampede.
+ 10% from 3000 mastery (Spirit beasts blessing)
+ 100% to the first three Claw/Bite/Smacks from the passive bonus.
So we're up to ~100-110% of the normal Melee damage , and 200-210% the normal Claw/Bite/Smack damage,lets move on to RAP/AP scaling.

100 Agility translates into about a 50 damage increase to pet melee attacks.
Normally you'll have a use trinket which gives you around 4000 extra agility on use.
So your pets Melee and Claw damage is increased by about 2000 damage.
Then we have Rabid which gives your pet 25% more AP and about another 4000 bonus to it's melee damage hits (It scales from it's current AP so that extra AP from agility,yeah..)
So with all your agility and AP benefits you're adding about 6000 damage to melee and claw.
Then add 100-110% to Melee and 200-210% to claw from abilities and spells.

So what does this mean? Well.... your "main" pet does-->
Max Melee hit: 18.000-20.000
Max Melee crit: 34.000-40.000
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Max Claw hit: 38.000-40.000
Max Claw crit: 76.000-80.000

And your Stampede pets does about half of that damage as they don't seem to gain from anything else than the 25% Stampede buff, mastery and PVP power.

So think about all those stampede pets attacking a single target in unison, in one global all the pets can do about 35k each.

Edited by Pinkums, 08 October 2012 - 07:04 PM.






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