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Posted 05 October 2012 - 02:54 AM

Hi All,

Posting this for a friend since they don't have access.

My BM hunter friend says the damage in the screen shots is a bug/exploit and he can only do about half of the following:

120k blinkstrike on 55% resil target.
52k claw on 55% resil target.

http://farm9.staticf...b8776c28e_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticf...161f0529e_h.jpg

He says it's due to bugged pets that ignore resil.  I remember something about this during beta, but Kurum says there is no such thing so I have no clue, just trying to settle the argument.

From what I've played against it seems normal, although I've never looked at my combat log after getting lit up by a BM I just know my health plummets.

So, yeah.  120k blinkstrike on full resil target = normal?

THIS IS NOT A QQ POST, I am not complaining about BM hunters in any way.

Thanks.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:17 AM

looks like our boy kurum is trying to keep this shit under wraps ..


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:23 AM

lol, what kind of pet was it?

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:24 AM

My bet is spirit beast.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:26 AM

the spirit wolves are the ones that ignore resil...or at least that's the theory.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:26 AM

View PostTop, on 05 October 2012 - 02:54 AM, said:

Hi All,

Posting this for a friend since they don't have access.

My BM hunter friend says the damage in the screen shots is a bug/exploit and he can only do about half of the following:

120k blinkstrike on 55% resil target.
52k claw on 55% resil target.

http://farm9.staticf...b8776c28e_h.jpg
http://farm9.staticf...161f0529e_h.jpg

He says it's due to bugged pets that ignore resil.  I remember something about this during beta, but Kurum says there is no such thing so I have no clue, just trying to settle the argument.

From what I've played against it seems normal, although I've never looked at my combat log after getting lit up by a BM I just know my health plummets.

So, yeah.  120k blinkstrike on full resil target = normal?

THIS IS NOT A QQ POST, I am not complaining about BM hunters in any way.

Thanks.

I've personally never gotten any blink strike above 40-50k.

120k... i didnt think it was possible right now

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:16 AM

woah blink strike 120k woah woah bro must be good ima spekk into that woah

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:22 AM

Those numbers definitely aren't (suppose) to be possible. I haven't really seen many Blink Strike's over 40k-ish on full resil targets. Claw barely reaches 15k-ish most of the time(during BW/Trinkets, less otherwise)
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:28 AM

i got 83k blink strike with my spirit wolf earlier... didn't ss
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:59 AM

"There is no bug pet" -uses the bug pet-: Kurum
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 07:59 AM

i never said there was no such thing, i said i had no clue if something like that existed

the only spirit beasts i have used in arena are the spectral wolf from twilight highlands and the pink tiger from zul'drak

afaik there is no bugged spirit beast atm, those numbers aren't really that outrageous if your friend had like 30% pvp power and was hitting some guy with only base resilience as sad as that sounds, bm dmg is just that fucking retarded atm

thing was running recount for all our games and said my highest claw crit was 35k, so i think 52k would definitely be possible on someone with no gear, i cant comment on blink strike though because i dont use it

someone in stream chat randomly complained that i was using a bugged pet while i was using the spectral wolf from twilight highlands, so i changed to the pink tiger and the numbers i saw we're still the same and still completely broken so idk

if i actually was using a bugged pet without knowing though then sorry to anyone i played while using it, bm is already retarded enough by itself rofl

Edited by Kurum, 06 October 2012 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:32 AM

I just tested Stampede, getting 3 of the wolfs and 1 silk worm (saw a hunter with it in arena yesterday)

I looked around on the armory today and saw every BM hunter that was high had all of their pets as Ferocity.. i spec'd all of them to that.

The highest Bite crit was 7k. For every pet its special attacks were critting about 7k and melee crits of 2.5k.
I popped Rapid fire (3,200 pvp power) and on use PvP trinket + beastial wrath...

In arena yesterday a BM hunter was critting me for 4x 40k (sometimes 49k) With Stampede pets special attack (bite)


i have no idea

Edited by Jokerplex, 05 October 2012 - 09:34 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:47 AM

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8 sec combat log against some 3v3 team (game lasted that long), you make your conclusions. (at ~2.4k mmr)

Didn't bother counting how much dmg that is cause their entire team including pets died.

There is no bug with pets, all pets do the same amount of dmg, they don't ignore resi, they just do too much damage in general. Luckily 95% of hunters, including many hunters here got _no idea_ how BM works it seems. Like, why would you spec your 5 pets defensively when playing BM lol?. Also I have yet to meet a hunter in arena who knows in which order he needs to press these 3 skills: Stampede, Cooldown Macro, Lynx Rush. Hard game.

PS: If you get crit by 120k blink strike, you might survive it, if you get crit by 450k lynx rush, you're dead LOL

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:53 AM

why wouldnt u cast cd's before stampedee?

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:07 PM

Made a nerf thread on the official forums regarding how OP hunters are now.

I suggest all hunters go and support this thread, other classes are welcome to support it too !

http://eu.battle.net...opic/5585778982

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:41 PM

A few more points I'd like to state for the record.

1)  The guy in the SS at the top, got hit for approx that much by 3 different hunters since Tuesday.  It wasn't an isolated incident.  Having said that, most hunters hit for "normal" damage.

2)  You can check his armory, it's over 55% resil with full pvp gear, not naked with baseline 40% resil :duckers:

3)  All hunters were using the spectral wolf from twilight highlands.

I specifically remember this being talked about on beta out in front of stormwind, that pets or certain pets or something to do with the spectral pets was ignoring resilience.  We only faced a few BM hunters in arena on there, and the 2 times I or my teammate just got 100-0'd in a few globals I chalked it up to it being beta and moved on without giving it much thought.

If you look at it, the math works out about right too for normal blinkstrike damage on a 55% resil target vs 120k blinkstrike on a 0% resil target.

I think some people know they're just keeping quiet :ph34r:
I would probably do the same.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:52 PM

View PostTop, on 05 October 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

A few more points I'd like to state for the record.

1)  The guy in the SS at the top, got hit for approx that much by 3 different hunters since Tuesday.  It wasn't an isolated incident.  Having said that, most hunters hit for "normal" damage.

2)  You can check his armory, it's over 55% resil with full pvp gear, not naked with baseline 40% resil :duckers:

3)  All hunters were using the spectral wolf from twilight highlands.

I specifically remember this being talked about on beta out in front of stormwind, that pets or certain pets or something to do with the spectral pets was ignoring resilience.  We only faced a few BM hunters in arena on there, and the 2 times I or my teammate just got 100-0'd in a few globals I chalked it up to it being beta and moved on without giving it much thought.

If you look at it, the math works out about right too for normal blinkstrike damage on a 55% resil target vs 120k blinkstrike on a 0% resil target.

I think some people know they're just keeping quiet :ph34r:
I would probably do the same.

Thank you for this information, I suggest you go support my *Nerf Blink Strike Thread* on the official forums. It will get blink strike fixed and hunters will be perfectly balanced after that. : )

I will make sure I remind them to nerf Spectral Animals too, maybe they will make them less spectral.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:18 PM

View PostKettu, on 05 October 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Thank you for this information, I suggest you go support my *Nerf Blink Strike Thread* on the official forums. It will get blink strike fixed and hunters will be perfectly balanced after that. : )

I will make sure I remind them to nerf Spectral Animals too, maybe they will make them less spectral.

Perhaps I'm missing something, but most hunters run with lynx rush instead surely?

Unless it is specifically that spirit beast with that ability that ignores resi?


EDIT: Are you sure the reason for spirit beasts not doing more damage is simply because the spirit beasts give the buff of 3,000 mastery - which most hunters don't group up with other classes that give this? The 3,000 mastery buffs the pet damage by a large amount, which would explain why it does more damage.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:42 PM

hahahahahaha,

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:02 PM

ok obviously kettux is trolling.   I'm guessing it's the 2 set bonus for hunters that is producing stuff like this at this point and not the pet ignoring resil.  should be easy enough to test when I'm back from work.  If not -_-




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