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[diglett23]

Hey guys, since Holy Shock has a base crit of 25% now, do you think reforging crit is useless? I think reforging mastery might be the best way to go now. What are your thoughts?

[Bamflol]

It depends really, i want to see how much mastery i'll have fully reforged/battlemasters (the one w/mastery) first to see if the absorb will be worth it. i believe it abosrbs a rough cap atm around 120k? that plus sacred sheild is nice, however if you dont have your mastery bubble stacked and with the way locks are, that absorb will be hard to obtain. At most it will just be a minor reduction in overall damage from your shocks/wogs unless you have the time to stack it.

[Eazymothafukne]

I went with more crit and spirit than mastery like most paladins do (holy). Felt like you should only stack mastery if you are going with Sacred Shield. If you are using Eternal flame i'd probably go with crit/sprit thats what I did.
Sacred Shield more asorb with mastery
Eternal Flame hot and chance for the hot to tick (Hot ticks 3 holy power Eternal Flame for 14k-16k without t2 wep.)
Depends on what comp you are playing.. Burst comp or a comp that lasts over time and pallys atm are more burst healers than over time it seems.

[pyrellael_3428244]

On my paladin I run Eternal flame and reforge everything but spirit to mastery, I feel like reforging to mastery I get more from it than reforging to crit. I mean sure critting is nice but if you run eternal flame the hot gives the shield so it's very nice for countering some dot damage.
My EF ticks for ~6800 non crit with 28% mastery that (Not very good at math) I believe is a 1900ish shield. So for one tick I effectively healed for 8700 which adds up if someone isn't spam dispelling your target @.@
Tl;dr I think mastery is awesome now.

[Regent]

I am trying to keep my Spirit as high as possible, because I never really have a problem healing people, just with me running oom and not being able to heal anymore. I think I will start reforging to mastery after I feel I don't need anymore spirit. Crit is good, but I prefer to know that that I am getting the same bonus from the mastery every cast.

Edit: After 5.1, spirit is worth much less than before. You will be sitting in CC's most of the match, and when you get out you will need the biggest heals possible. This is making me lean towards crit/mastery over spirit.

Edited by Regent, 11 December 2012 - 06:28 AM.

[Razedyo]

Spirit > Mastery > other stats
Mastery works for every healing spell including Eternal Flame.
In my oppinion its the best stat after Spirit.

[Mirionx]

Crit & spirit

[Seleven]

Mirionx, on 09 December 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Crit & spirit

same.

[Zhand1]

I reforge everything that doesn't have spirit to spirit, then everything that has spirit, reforge crit/haste to mastery. I just found this to be a really good setup due to never having mana problems, even though I'm gemmed for spirit instead of resil/pvp power like a good chunk of players have been doing lately. I also run a little different spec too. I think it's more of what comp you're running and how you feel about your mana problems.

[veGGenitc]

Spirit and mastery, all day, every day

[Nevershock]

Crit spirit for me, I have never liked mastery.

[HólydeathEU]

crit & spirit is what i run and i like it!

[Apsco60]

Mastery is nice consistent mitigation vs cleave comps.

[Wetworks]

After coming back to the game for 2 weeks and trying both mastery and crit, I would have to say both are real nice. I still feel my personal favorite is crit though.

[salice]

Crit atm.

[Libyanator]

Currently going with; Spirit > mastery > crit > haste
I'd get 12.39% crit and 28.52% mastery

this in turn basically means 28.52% of every heal place a shield on your target

however if i went; Spirit > crit > mastery > haste I'd get
16.15% crit and 23.22% mastery

I personally like the 1st since its more reliable and consistent as a healer to have 5% more healing on everything rather than go for rng
plus the additional 25% crit as well as my own 12.39% crit i think is quite reliable on getting those IoL procs from holy shock.

whether you feel swapping essentially 5.3% more healing for 3.76% more crit is completely up to you, but I'm certainly not going to favour rng over consistency.

[Libyanator]

ps. this was all done with blessing of might on

Edited by Libyanator, 24 January 2013 - 11:16 AM.

[Athená]

Full on mastery, it will always be there. Crit is just rng and not necessary due to the standard 25% crit on holy shock.

I literally reforge everything to mastery and crit if the piece already has mastery on it.

[Jamiepaladin]

Spirit > mastery > crit > haste

I don't see alot of paladins with Sanctified Wrath, is there something im missing with divine purpose? This game feels too cooldown dependant to not take Sanctified Wrath, its one of our main cooldown healing abilities

Edited by Jamiepaladin, 24 January 2013 - 01:20 PM.

[Athená]

Jamiepaladin, on 24 January 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Spirit > mastery > crit > haste

I don't see alot of paladins with Sanctified Wrath, is there something im missing with divine purpose? This game feels too cooldown dependant to not take Sanctified Wrath, its one of our main cooldown healing abilities

If not Divine Purpose I'd take Holy Avenger if you want another cd. Divine Purpose is rng true but it procs often enough to patch people up with.

And do people actually reforge toward spirit? Or just leave spirit be? I'm reforging everything away from spirit and I'm having no mana problems.