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#1 Jokerplex

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:49 PM

MM is beyond a joke and Survival is even worse. explosive shot 3k non crits on a pvp target

I will quit the game if BM is the only viable spec.

I hope things are different at 90 but it looks like they wont be...

#2 Zeiyo

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

the game on live right now is nothing like lvl 90 beta

#3 tonnylol

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 03:57 PM

Can't expect your class to be good or viable upon release mate. However Blizzard is doing a pretty bad job designing this game. Beta and PTR have been out for so long now...
Hopefully hunters will scale more with the new gear!
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#4 Paxxar

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:00 PM

Hunter's are currently fine in my eyes, and will be fine come MoP. Don't do the stupid thing and expect perfect balance in the pre-patch. Everything always fucks up and everything is retarded in the pre-patches of expansions.


View PostJokerplex, on 29 August 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:


I will quit the game if BM is the only viable spec.


Why would you even add that in? Not even a personal attack on you, just who honestly cares if someone quits?
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:15 PM

BM seems op but omfg is it horrible to play. I enjoy play my level 47 alt more than my hunt atm

#6 Jokerplex

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:20 PM

Well i wasnt expecting any of you to care? just saying how stupid and boring of a spec it is

I dont think much will change at 90 for mm and surv

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 06:55 PM

BM has some decent single target burst.  But it certainly isnt fun to play that shit.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:15 PM

Yeah BM is the worst spec ever... relying on pet 100% of the time ( cc pet - hunter cries ) + insanely SHIT animation on kill command

I'm just hoping that MM or surv will be viable, since MM has always been a good choice and was fun to play

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

Mm seems fine to me, not sure what ur seeing wrong with it

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

Damage just seems really low

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

View Postdame, on 29 August 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

Mm seems fine to me, not sure what ur seeing wrong with it

Damage is a joke compared to BM

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:15 PM

Why all the BM hate?  Doesn't make sense to me, this isn't the cata/wotlk kill command and arcane shot spamming BM anymore.

You can get silencing shot + posthaste and feel just like MM...shit if you miss aimed shot get powershot

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:47 PM

I haven't tried anything but bm so not sure.  I know with thrill of the hunt seeming to ALWAYS be up i felt decent in the 2 bgs I did

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:03 PM

View PostHackattack3, on 29 August 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

Why all the BM hate?  Doesn't make sense to me, this isn't the cata/wotlk kill command and arcane shot spamming BM anymore.

You can get silencing shot + posthaste and feel just like MM...shit if you miss aimed shot get powershot

It really is.

With thrill of the hunt up alot of the time arcane shots are go.

Why would u not take 1min off deter and 10 sec disengage for posthaste....

bm is broing as fuck really.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:17 PM

BM feels just as strong as it was back in s5 during prenerf readiness double bestial wrath tbh : P

It has more utility atm than any hunter spec has ever had.

It's basicly last season's BM hunter with all these additions:

+silencing shot
+readiness (resets CD of bestial wrath)
+8sec aoe root (if you decide to spec into it)
+real stealth (glyph)
+knockback (glyph)
+spell reflects during deterrence (glyph)
+being able to shoot people in your melee range (LOL)
+you barely even have to use cobra shot, the passive focus regen combined with Fervor is sick
+Kill command usable from 25y range
+You're pet now has shadowstep ambush on 20sec CD (Blink Strike)
+Rabid's become a really good offensive CD (gives 50% more attack power to pet for 20sec)

Might be biased cause BM has always been my favorite spec but I don't really see how any hunter can whine with all the new stuff we got, MM will be fine at lvl 90 when you get a good bow anyways.

PS: Blink Strike is best skill ever !

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:23 PM

this 8 second root is a fucking joke

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:25 PM

View PostJokerplex, on 29 August 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

It really is.

With thrill of the hunt up alot of the time arcane shots are go.

Why would u not take 1min off deter and 10 sec disengage for posthaste....

bm is broing as fuck really.

I agree with you, if you pick up thrill of the hunt you are basically going with arcane shot spam, regardless of your spec.

I would also take 10 sec off disengage and 1 min off deter, my point was you could take posthaste if you wanted it to "Feel" like cata MM.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:28 AM

I'ts just not enjoyable to have to rely oh shitty pet mechanics to do everything.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 12:59 AM

Cries similar to 4.0 release. Just wait for the actual game to come out already.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:06 AM

View PostJokerplex, on 29 August 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

MM is beyond a joke and Survival is even worse. explosive shot 3k non crits on a pvp target

I will quit the game if BM is the only viable spec.

I hope things are different at 90 but it looks like they wont be...

fuk bm
Idk if you played Hunter in the start of Wotlk but MM was pretty awful at the start as well. MM more then likely won't be better then BM till the following seasons when better weapons come out. Take for example MM wasn't ahead of BM till s6 weapons came out and MM was complete trash at the start of s9 till Blizz fixed/buffed MM. Just be grateful you have silencing shot as BM this time around lol.




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