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#21 WildeHilde

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:38 PM

View Postnyzzeh, on 01 September 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

Priest Void Tendrils as controlled root.
I like the controlled roots on priests now that stupid retardiors can't just remove them every 30 sec, the same cooldown as void tendrils, just like psychic scream vs berserker rage. Damn warriors immune to fear I never understood how such an op ability against priests and locks is still in the game, it's like lock vs mage during TBC which they balanced, but whatever this is sooo offtopic.

Oh and priest mind control doesn't exist any more, now it's called Dominate Mind, and I don't know if it remains in the same category but why would they change it?

Thanks. Updated.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 02:49 AM

Didn't see this post, thank you much.
Will stick this into gladius xD
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:09 PM

It's not finished, yet. We still need some lazy druids and mages to help us update the list.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 05:39 PM

Clone/Banish share DR... Or used to at least. (though that is likely the least important DR in game)

Druid Talent 'Wild Charge' gives an immobilize effect when you use it in bear form. No idea what it shares DR with.

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#25 WildeHilde

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:01 PM

Updated:
Added the category unknown for spells I am unsure about. Removed and added many spells.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

Combustion definately sits with deep freeze.
Ice ward does not share with nova. I will check it completely later
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 02:10 AM

Also: there is a blinding light glyph
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:48 AM

Thanks Firebunny!

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:55 AM

Moved Bad Manner (Monkey) to controlled stuns.

/updated and thanks to Buachaille.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:41 PM

Still need help with the four last skills:

UNKNOWN = Help to find out

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:42 AM

Also looking for the DR category for the Pandaren racial. I assume Disorient, could someone verify that?

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 04:24 PM

Shammy stun totem shares DR with Kidney Shot at least from a Rogue perspective, found it out randomly while BG'ing with my ele shammy buddy :)

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 07:20 PM

View PostTrancey, on 04 September 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Shammy stun totem shares DR with Kidney Shot at least from a Rogue perspective, found it out randomly while BG'ing with my ele shammy buddy :)

Updated. Thank you!

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:54 PM

View PostWildeHilde, on 04 September 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

Also looking for the DR category for the Pandaren racial. I assume Disorient, could someone verify that?

UNKNOWN = Help to find out
Thanks for the awesome thread, i can tell you for sure that "Druid - Wild Charge Immobilize in Bear Form" doesn't share dr with anything nor even have a dr itself, i played almost every comp as a feral so im pretty sure also for example if you bear charge someone(4sec) and then after 14 seconds(Charge cooldown) if you bear charge him again it will still be 4 secounds.

Edited by Wowdruid, 04 September 2012 - 09:55 PM.

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:49 PM

/updated, only two spells are missing

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 09:09 AM

Updated, corrected spell ids for [CS], added contributors and found new stuff to test.

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  • Death Knight: Remorseless Winter (5th stack, talent)
  • Hunter - Sting (Wasp) is not sharing DR with any [CS] controlled stuns Unknown if it has no DR at all, or if it is just in its own category. Seems like a bug.
  • Paladin - Glyph of Blinding Light Knockdown
  • Priest - Holy Word: Chastise (Holy) - doesn't have DR with [CS] controlled stuns anymore. It might be under [DO] Disorient now.


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Posted 09 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

This version should now be good enough for addon authors to use it. The spell IDs should be correct and although some spells are not categorized, yet, the rest is solid information.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:31 AM

Ok, we need some more tests. Got informations from Udderly:

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Hibernate and Disorienting Roar def don't DR each other (i roared first and then put him in a full 8 second hibernate).  I don't know if this proves for sure that hibernate is still on its own DR but it at least doesnt DR with Roar

Monkey blind and intimidate do NOT dr each other.  Monkey blind also breaks on damage, like a disorient.  My testing shows that it isn't a controlled stun like HoJ.  I wasn't able to see if it shared DR with HoJ, for example, but it didn't with intimidate


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  • Death Knight: Remorseless Winter (5th stack, talent)
  • Hunter - Sting (Wasp) is not sharing DR with any [CS] controlled stuns Unknown if it has no DR at all, or if it is just in its own category. Seems like a bug.
  • Paladin - Glyph of Blinding Light Knockdown
  • Priest - Holy Word: Chastise (Holy) - doesn't have DR with [CS] controlled stuns anymore. It might be under [DO] Disorient now.
  • Shaman - Earthquake Knockdown (Elemental) - spell id missing


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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:42 PM

Still need confirmations and updates. Testing would really help the addon authors.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 01:49 PM

Scatter Shot and Dragons Breath share DR





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