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#1 WildeHilde

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:15 AM

This version should now be good enough for addon authors to use it. The spell IDs should be correct and although some spells are not categorized, yet, the rest is solid information.

If you cannot write in the general section, please send me a PM if you want to contribute.

[CR] = Controlled Root [CS] = Controlled Stun [DA] = Disarm [DO] = Disorient [F] = Fear [H] = Horror [RR] = Random Root
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[RS] = Random Stun [S] = Silence [N] = None: Abilities that do not share diminishing returns with any other ability but have self-diminishing returns. [NO] = None, not even self: Abilities that do not share diminishing returns with any ability including themselves Contributors

Thanks to all the responders and the people that messaged me for information updates. I will include further participants here, too.

#2 Randomguy

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:55 AM

Isn't Stoneclaw stun on the [CS] dr? I'm pretty sure I saw some rogues DR'ing themselves so they can't be peeled - on live at least.
Also UA Silence for [O] unless it will be /is already removed from beta.

Edited by Randomguy, 25 August 2012 - 11:03 AM.


#3 WildeHilde

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:21 AM

View PostRandomguy, on 25 August 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Isn't Stoneclaw stun on the [CS] dr? I'm pretty sure I saw some rogues DR'ing themselves so they can't be peeled - on live at least.
Also UA Silence for [O] unless it will be /is already removed from beta.

I remember Stoneclaw being a random stun, but not entirely sure. Can anyone confirm?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:28 AM

Druid Solar Beam (Balance) dunno if that changed on the beta, but on live I was always able to strang w/o dr after solar beam

yea 100% sure u can hit stoneclaw to get stun drd

Edited by Itsnel, 25 August 2012 - 11:28 AM.


#5 Jackow

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 11:35 AM

Stoneclaw doesn't exist in mop so it doesn't really matter, and I believe you can add capacitor totem stun to controlled stuns, although I can't confirm that.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 12:24 PM

Updated. Which other spells do not exist anymore?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

what about the panda racial stun/disorient?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:20 PM

What about the new stun at the lvl 90 tier for DKs?

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 05:27 PM

View PostJackow, on 25 August 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Stoneclaw doesn't exist in mop so it doesn't really matter, and I believe you can add capacitor totem stun to controlled stuns, although I can't confirm that.

correct, and i can confirm it does DR with controlled stuns

#10 WildeHilde

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 06:12 PM

/push

More input wanted.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:28 PM

I can 90% confirm that the paralytic proc does not DR things like kidney shot/cheap shot.
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#12 WildeHilde

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:15 PM

Question is if Paralytic is on the same DR as random stuns like Dragon Roar or Impact.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:47 PM

I like this, it's actually refreshing to see a helpful post on AJ.
At first sight, I say you have to change the sin and punishment part of shadowpriest and replace it by shadow 4pc bonus.
Then, delete the retribution part of repentance and add blinding light in the same category (I suppose it's in the disorient DR, right?).

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:18 AM

Mage Frostjaw DRs with silences.

#15 WildeHilde

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

Updated and improved formatting. Will add all spell ids later on.

Druids have some new stuff, too. One disorient I think can be talented.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 09:02 AM

Youre missing warlock pet disarm

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 09:18 AM

Treants new root shares DR with Entangling Roots, controlled root.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 09:57 AM

Updated again

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:11 AM

you could add that psyfiends fear shares dr with fear effects

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

Priest Void Tendrils as controlled root.
I like the controlled roots on priests now that stupid retardiors can't just remove them every 30 sec, the same cooldown as void tendrils, just like psychic scream vs berserker rage. Damn warriors immune to fear I never understood how such an op ability against priests and locks is still in the game, it's like lock vs mage during TBC which they balanced, but whatever this is sooo offtopic.

Oh and priest mind control doesn't exist any more, now it's called Dominate Mind, and I don't know if it remains in the same category but why would they change it?

Edited by nyzzeh, 01 September 2012 - 12:17 PM.






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