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[WildeHilde]

This version should now be good enough for addon authors to use it. The spell IDs should be correct and although some spells are not categorized, yet, the rest is solid information.

If you cannot write in the general section, please send me a PM if you want to contribute.

UNKNOWN = Help to find out

• Hunter - Sting (Wasp) is not sharing DR with any [CS] controlled stuns Unknown if it has no DR at all, or if it is just in its own category. Seems like a bug.
  
• Priest - Holy Word: Chastise (Holy) - doesn't have DR with [CS] controlled stuns anymore. It might be under [DO] Disorient now.
  
• Priest - Glyph of Mindblast
  
• Warlock - Sleep (Demonology)

[CR] = Controlled Root

• Death Knight Chains of Ice  (Chillblains root)
  
• Druid Entangling Roots, Entangling Roots Treants (Balance), Nature's Grasp, Mass Entanglement (talent)
  
• Hunter Narrow Escape (talent),  Pin (Crab), Web (Spider), Lock Jaw (Dog), Venom Web Spray (Beast Mastery Silithid)
  
• Mage Frost Nova,  Freeze (Frost Water Elemental)
  
• Monk - Disable
  
• Priest Void Tendril's Grasp
  
• Rogue - Partial Paralysis (Paralytic Poison Shiv effect) - unconfirmed
  
• Shaman Earthgrab (talent), Freeze (Frozen Power talent)
  
• Warrior Staggering Shout

[CS] = Controlled Stun

• Death Knight Asphyxiate (talent), Gnaw (Unholy Ghoul), Monstrous Blow (Dark Transformation Unholy Ghoul ability), Remorseless Winter (5th stack, talent)
  
• Druid Maim, Pounce, Mighty Bash (talent), Bear Hug (Guardian), Bash (Treants in feral spec, bugged stuns 3 times and makes the target immune to stuns until the DR wears off)
  
• Hunter Binding Shot, Intimidation (Beast Mastery), Bad Manner (Monkey), Sonic Blast (Bat)
  
• Mage Deep Freeze,  Combustion (Fire)
  
• Monk Charging Ox Wave (talent), Leg Sweep (talent), Clash (Brewmaster), Fists of Fury (Windwalker)
  
• Paladin Hammer of Justice, Holy Wrath (Protection), Fist of Justice (talent), Glyph of Blinding Light
  
• Rogue Cheap Shot, Kidney Shot
  
• Shaman Static Charge  (Capacitor Totem Stun)
  
• Warlock Shadowfury (talent), Felguard: Axe Toss (Demonology), Infernal Awakening (Infernal)
  
• Warrior Shockwave (talent), Warbringer (talent, Charge knockdown), Storm Bolt (talent)
  
• Tauren War Stomp

[DA] = Disarm

• Hunter Snatch (Bird of Prey), Clench (Scorpid)
  
• Monk Grapple Weapon
  
• Priest Psychic Horror (Shadow)
  
• Rogue Dismantle
  
• Warlock Voidwalker: Disarm (also Voidlord, same spell)
  
• Warrior Disarm

[DO] = Disorient

• Druid Hibernate, Disorienting Roar (talent)
  
• Hunter Freezing Trap, Wyvern Sting (Survival)
  
• Mage Polymorph, Ring of Frost (talent)
  
• Monk Paralysis
  
• Paladin Repentance (talent)
  
• Priest Shackle Undead
  
• Rogue Gouge, Sap
  
• Shaman Hex
  
• Warlock: Succubus: Seduction, Mesmerize (Shivarra demon)
  
• Pandaren Quaking Palm

[F] = Fear

• Hunter Scare Beast
  
• Paladin Blinding Light, Turn Evil
  
• Priest Psychic Scream, Psychic Terror (Psyfiend fear, talent)
  
• Rogue Blind
  
• Warlock Fear, Blood Fear (talent, same debuff for both), Howl of Terror (talent)
  
• Warrior Intimidating Shout

[H] = Horror

• Priest Psychic Horror, Sin and Punishment (Shadow 4set bonus)
  
• Warlock Mortal Coil (talent)

[RR] = Random Root

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[RS] = Random Stun

• Rogue - Paralysis (Paralytic Poison five stack stun)
  
• Shaman - Earthquake
  
• Warrior - Dragon Roar (talent)

[S] = Silence

• Death Knight Strangulate
  
• Druid Solar Beam (Balance)
  
• Hunter Silencing Shot (talent)
  
• Mage Improved Counterspell, Frostjaw (talent)
  
• Monk Spear Hand Strike
  
• Paladin Avenger's Shield (Protection)
  
• Priest Silence (Shadow)
  
• Rogue Garrote
  
• Warlock Felhunter: Spell Lock, Optical Blast (Observer demon)
  
• Warrior Pummel and Heroic Throw with Glyph of Gag Order
  
• Blood Elf Arcane Torrent

DS = Dragon's Breath and Scatter Shot

• Hunter Scatter Shot
  
• Mage Dragon's Breath (Fire)

[N] = None: Abilities that do not share diminishing returns with any other ability but have self-diminishing returns.

• Druid Cyclone
  
• Hunter Entrapment (Survival)
  
• Mage  Ice Ward (talent),
  
• Priest Dominate Mind
  
• Shaman Bind Elemental
  
• Warlock Banish

[O] = Other

• Druid - Wild Charge Immobilize in Bear Form - does not have diminishing returns
  
• Mage - Frostjaw root (talent) - only DR as silence
  
• Priest  does not have diminishing returns
  
• Warlock - Unstable Affliction Dispel and Infernal Awakening do not have diminishing returns
  
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• Warrior Charge

Contributors

Thanks to all the responders and the people that messaged me for information updates. I will include further participants here, too.

• Cybeloras, author of TellMeWhen for many additions and spell ID corrections
  
• Firebunny, author of the new 5.0 Gladius
  
• Vishas and Deliantha aka Vadrak for testing with me in the Gurubashi Arena on beta
  
• Randomguy, Itsnel, Jackow, BettySuarez, Zeiyo, Rimathil, Nyzzeh, Pka, Ramsig, Zong, Kerzen, Hertzuk, Trancey, Wowdruid, Buachaille, Altruit, Friedkitteh, Enilix, Cirous, Sobbz

[Randomguy]

Isn't Stoneclaw stun on the [CS] dr? I'm pretty sure I saw some rogues DR'ing themselves so they can't be peeled - on live at least.
Also UA Silence for [O] unless it will be /is already removed from beta.

Edited by Randomguy, 25 August 2012 - 11:03 AM.

[WildeHilde]

Randomguy, on 25 August 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Isn't Stoneclaw stun on the [CS] dr? I'm pretty sure I saw some rogues DR'ing themselves so they can't be peeled - on live at least.
Also UA Silence for [O] unless it will be /is already removed from beta.

I remember Stoneclaw being a random stun, but not entirely sure. Can anyone confirm?

[Itsnel]

Druid Solar Beam (Balance) dunno if that changed on the beta, but on live I was always able to strang w/o dr after solar beam

yea 100% sure u can hit stoneclaw to get stun drd

Edited by Itsnel, 25 August 2012 - 11:28 AM.

[Jackow]

Stoneclaw doesn't exist in mop so it doesn't really matter, and I believe you can add capacitor totem stun to controlled stuns, although I can't confirm that.

[WildeHilde]

Updated. Which other spells do not exist anymore?

[BettySuarez]

what about the panda racial stun/disorient?

[FTRouslan]

What about the new stun at the lvl 90 tier for DKs?

[Zeiyo]

Jackow, on 25 August 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Stoneclaw doesn't exist in mop so it doesn't really matter, and I believe you can add capacitor totem stun to controlled stuns, although I can't confirm that.

correct, and i can confirm it does DR with controlled stuns

[WildeHilde]

/push

More input wanted.

[Rimathil]

I can 90% confirm that the paralytic proc does not DR things like kidney shot/cheap shot.

[WildeHilde]

Question is if Paralytic is on the same DR as random stuns like Dragon Roar or Impact.

[nyzzeh]

I like this, it's actually refreshing to see a helpful post on AJ.
At first sight, I say you have to change the sin and punishment part of shadowpriest and replace it by shadow 4pc bonus.
Then, delete the retribution part of repentance and add blinding light in the same category (I suppose it's in the disorient DR, right?).

[Pka]

Mage Frostjaw DRs with silences.

[WildeHilde]

Updated and improved formatting. Will add all spell ids later on.

Druids have some new stuff, too. One disorient I think can be talented.

[Ramsig]

Youre missing warlock pet disarm

[Zong]

Treants new root shares DR with Entangling Roots, controlled root.

[WildeHilde]

Updated again

[Kerzen]

you could add that psyfiends fear shares dr with fear effects

[nyzzeh]

Priest Void Tendrils as controlled root.
I like the controlled roots on priests now that stupid retardiors can't just remove them every 30 sec, the same cooldown as void tendrils, just like psychic scream vs berserker rage. Damn warriors immune to fear I never understood how such an op ability against priests and locks is still in the game, it's like lock vs mage during TBC which they balanced, but whatever this is sooo offtopic.

Oh and priest mind control doesn't exist any more, now it's called Dominate Mind, and I don't know if it remains in the same category but why would they change it?

Edited by nyzzeh, 01 September 2012 - 12:17 PM.