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Poll: Todays question is (200 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you feel about the need to raid for playing pvp competetively?

  1. I love slaying dragons. (24 votes [12.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.00%

  2. Pros don't need gear to win. I'll stick with pvp gear. (67 votes [33.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.50%

  3. Hate raiding, but will do it anyways. (67 votes [33.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.50%

  4. Bye WoW, hello GW2! (42 votes [21.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.00%

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#21 Top

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 04:44 PM

View PostBraindeadly, on 31 July 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

mediums such as youtube videos seem to grab blizzards attention quite well but surely this is bug or not implemented yet?

They do but what kind of video are you supposed to make for this?  Some montage of Bloodmoon -> Stormherald -> Cataclysm's edge -> Warglaives -> Apolyon -> Betrayer of Humanity -> Val'anyr -> Shadowmourne -> Dragonwrath -> Fangs -> What terror lies next in the Pandarian Arena.

Ok that would be pretty cool.

#22 Kebohs

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:56 PM

A game which used to bring me great joy continues to go down hill.

There is absolutely no reason at all to even create pvp power if the weapons aren't of a comparable level.

#23 ROKMODE

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:35 PM

^

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IijlbG7yrlc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IijlbG7yrlc[/url]
should suffice quite well
Also
Why isn't there just an option for "I hate raiding. I don't want to have to raid for it." Not everyone who wants to quit wow wants to go play that shitty mmo.

Edited by ROKMODE, 31 July 2012 - 10:40 PM.

Expect bias in posts because
Wotlk is the best thing since sliced bread

#24 Synkz

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:45 PM

I would have voted for the option of: "Hate raiding, so I'm just boned."

xD

#25 WildeHilde

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:21 AM

I am no balance expert, which is why I usually talk to a player a lot better than me, before making statements in that regard, but I think with the current state of resilience the problem is not "overpowered pve weapons", but underpowered pvp weapons. If pvp power was on pvp weapons it would make them better (read: more damage/healing) than pve weapons. Which means it's not about the overpowered stuff from previous seasons, but rather weapons that are better than these, which is counteracted by the buffed resilience.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:23 AM

with how much I liked GW2, and the upcoming FIFA game, its gonna take something really special to get me back and spend countless hours leveling and gearing up.

After Cata, I can't trust them to get this shit right anymore.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:27 AM

Im honestly still clinging on to the hope this is all just an epic troll by blizz
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:12 AM

[quote name='Covlol' timestamp='1343896073' post='3737678']
Im honestly still clinging on to the hope this is all just an epic troll by blizz
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#29 Kionne

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 05:09 PM

welcome to the new pandaclysm

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:00 PM

Time to panic. Apparently the pvp trinkets are best in slot for pve, too. Which means if not everything we experienced over the last years falls to pieces Blizzard will have to nerf them.

[url="http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1171183-Mop-trinket-Imbalance"]Source of the analysis on MMO Champion[/url]

#31 FTRouslan

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:06 PM

[quote name='WildeHilde' timestamp='1344020433' post='3738355']
Time to panic. Apparently the pvp trinkets are best in slot for pve, too. Which means if not everything we experienced over the last years falls to pieces Blizzard will have to nerf them.

[url="http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1171183-Mop-trinket-Imbalance"]Source of the analysis on MMO Champion[/url]
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So? Let PvErs cap their points for a week or two. Boom, trinket. It pales in comparison to the time PvPers have to invest in order to remain competitive


EDIT: You can even PvE for the valor points. No backpedalling arenas required.

Edited by FTRouslan, 03 August 2012 - 07:07 PM.

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View PostNameswapro, on 18 November 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

Look at me. I can start and stop wars, at will. I can save or destroy the world. I can do anything I fucking want. Just now, I pissed near my toilet bowl because I fucking can.

#32 Ozzzimmer

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:41 PM

Its always going to be like this...

No one cares about 0.0-1.3% dmg reduction from one piece. If the stats on the pve gear with bring more dmg than the pvp power on the pvp piece (remembering resil and pvpp aren't on an items stat budget) people will use the 1-2 pieces of raiding gear that will bring more deeps to the table.


*edit: on a side note.. why doesn't it show my toon or ratings when I post, they're linked to my account on my profile page?

Edited by Ozzzimmer, 03 August 2012 - 07:42 PM.


#33 Kionne

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 08:32 PM

[quote name='Ozzzimmer' timestamp='1344022880' post='3738369']
*edit: on a side note.. why doesn't it show my toon or ratings when I post, they're linked to my account on my profile page?
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it's showing for me
apparently it doesn't show right as you post but if you refresh the page you will see it

#34 infectionx

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 09:51 PM

[quote name='Ozzzimmer' timestamp='1344022880' post='3738369']
Its always going to be like this...

No one cares about 0.0-1.3% dmg reduction from one piece. If the stats on the pve gear with bring more dmg than the pvp power on the pvp piece (remembering resil and pvpp aren't on an items stat budget) people will use the 1-2 pieces of raiding gear that will bring more deeps to the table.


*edit: on a side note.. why doesn't it show my toon or ratings when I post, they're linked to my account on my profile page?
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This pretty much,a trinket like cunning for example who gives a 20%~ damage increase will easily replace a pvp power trinket(let alone if you are human),the same applies to weapons.

I guess though that they have not added pvp power on pvp weapons yet,have they??:/
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#35 Mistyxlol

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 10:20 PM

i dont mind slaying dragons i just don't want to be depended on it by playing mage when mop hits
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#36 WildeHilde

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:34 PM

Thank you for adding pvp power to pvp weapons Blizzard. This change is huge and will make MoP PvP so much better!

Have a look:[url="http://www.wowdb.com/items/85112-malevolent-gladiators-greatsword"] Malevolent Gladiator's Greatsword[/url]

#37 Starcookie

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:37 PM

11% seems rather high, but we'll see.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:38 PM

Heh, look at this PvE dagger for rogues and the gem that goes in it:



964 agility dagger...

edit: I can't post URLs, but spiritsever and hydraulic gems.  

The dagger's item number is 86910 if you want to just plug that in.



edit 2: and it looks like there are weapons for each class that use hydraulic gems, and each adds +500 of a primary stat

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:39 PM

An 11% overall damage increase vs players should easily offset those primary stats.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:53 PM

By the way, thank you [url="http://www.arenajunkies.com/user/14506-theed/"]Theed[/url] for sharing the info!




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