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#21 Zaephyr

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:31 AM

View PostTalbadar, on 17 July 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

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#22 dreschnuu99

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:38 AM

View PostZeiyo, on 16 July 2012 - 11:39 PM, said:

think this was recorded pre resi fix, gone from like 20% to 50% reduction now, not to mention most these players are clueless so to compare class's/spec's is pointless

I think this footage was taken post the resil fix, because the buff/debuff duration doesn't show (this bug came in with the new patch).

I might be wrong though
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#23 Gabbit

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:40 AM

Doesn't look very scary 2 meeeee
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#24 Ayrasaurus

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 01:45 AM

View PostHotted, on 17 July 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

I believe warriors are extremely overtuned.

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#25 Ctuhlu

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:26 AM

View PostTalbadar, on 17 July 2012 - 01:29 AM, said:

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Fourreur said:

we have to switch to them making the decision to pop reck or not to pop reck

#26 Mylez

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:38 AM

that hemo rogue with revealing strike, heh.

damage looks all right, shaman might need cooldowns toned down. shadow priest also seems strongish considering no cooldowns were used and devouring plague is high back ended damage.

#27 mukuld50

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:42 AM

View PostCtuhlu, on 17 July 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

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#28 Ctuhlu

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:25 AM

View Postmukuld50, on 17 July 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

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:rolleyes: Not the wrong gif, I was acknowledging his point.

Fourreur said:

we have to switch to them making the decision to pop reck or not to pop reck

#29 sParKLezZ

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 03:30 AM

View PostCtuhlu, on 17 July 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

:rolleyes: Not the wrong gif, I was acknowledging his point.

dont acknowledge just get fucking rocked


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#30 GLopez

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:13 AM

View Postdreschnuu99, on 17 July 2012 - 01:38 AM, said:

I think this footage was taken post the resil fix, because the buff/debuff duration doesn't show (this bug came in with the new patch).

I might be wrong though
Swifty could have turned off the display, but that's unlikely.

That's kind of scary. If this is after the addition of base resilience, MOP could end up being a disaster. All these classes and specs being broken is probably too much work to fix in a month.

I'm also not sure if it can be fixed by simply adding more base resilience because there is a limit to how strong resilience can be before healing becomes too hard to balance in a PvE situation vs. a PvP situation.

This is pretty disappointing. :(

Edited by GLopez, 17 July 2012 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:44 AM

View PostGLopez, on 17 July 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

Swifty could have turned off the display, but that's unlikely.

That's kind of scary. If this is after the addition of base resilience, MOP could end up being a disaster. All these classes and specs being broken is probably too much work to fix in a month.

I don't really get it because they said they didn't want classes doing more DPS than they do now when 5.0 drops. If multiple classes are pulling 50,000 and more damage against a target with resilience, they're definitely doing more DPS, and they're definitely doing way too much burst in PvP.

I'm also not sure if it can be fixed by simply adding more base resilience because there is a limit to how strong resilience can be before healing becomes too hard to balance in a PvE situation vs. a PvP situation.

This is pretty disappointing. :(

Keep in mind this is at lvl 90 with full pvp gear and about 390k life.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 04:58 AM

View PostsParKLezZ, on 17 July 2012 - 03:30 AM, said:

dont acknowledge just get fucking rocked


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Im not sure id ever consider getting called out on a video game forum getting rocked

#33 Pitiless

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:13 AM

View Postcochonhalal, on 16 July 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

i dont know how many times i have to post this on AJ

IT
IS
BETA

Wasn't expecting someone who played in s5 to say that

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:15 AM

first thing to come to my mind was enhance/BM hunter damage... i feel like beastcleave is going to be strong again and imma be very sad...
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#35 Conradical

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:24 AM

View PostJaxzyo, on 17 July 2012 - 05:15 AM, said:

first thing to come to my mind was enhance/BM hunter damage... i feel like beastcleave is going to be strong again and imma be very sad...

You won't even be able to fear bomb everything off due to the limit on HoT/Psychic Scream =(

#36 Jamal

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 05:32 AM

How do I get these said "bugged daggers" (;


but yeah as far as burst goes this seems very manageable.  If you guys forget what burst is you should prolly download the level 80 arena tournament server and check it out.  Burst will never be as insane as it was in wrath so I'm confused as to why everyone is freaking out about numbers like this.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:20 AM

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:20 AM

It's fascinating. Swifty makes a bullshit video, chaining together exploits, bugs and some footage and the clicks sky-rocket, Blizzard responds and threads about his videos get more views on AJ, than constructive discussions. Swifty is the Fox News or the Sun of WoW. Someone intelligent, that knows how to make money with the fear of the less smart ones.

#39 rob-hype

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:40 AM

View PostPitiless, on 17 July 2012 - 05:13 AM, said:

Wasn't expecting someone who played in s5 to say that

To correct you, beta dk's weren't that strong it was just before live hit that they were buffed to what they were throughout season 5.
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#40 Pitiless

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:36 AM

View Postrob-hype, on 17 July 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

To correct you, beta dk's weren't that strong it was just before live hit that they were buffed to what they were throughout season 5.

To correct you, where did I just say DKs?  A LOT of stuff was wrong in beta and made it live in s5, despite repeated warnings by testers on the beta forums, including me.  The entire season felt like one big beta test.

My point is, saying it's beta doesn't really mean a whole lot, given Blizz's track record.  Hopefully they'll fix it, but blindly defending it with "it's just beta, there's no way it would go live" is silly.  I haven't even watched the vid and don't really care, just wanted to point that out.

Edited by Pitiless, 17 July 2012 - 09:37 AM.





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