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Poll: Adoption (55 member(s) have cast votes)

Would you ever adopt a child?

  1. Yes (7 votes [12.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.73%

  2. No (4 votes [7.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.27%

  3. Fuck No (5 votes [9.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  4. If I couldn't have kids (27 votes [49.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.09%

  5. I fucking hate kids (11 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  6. Have my own children & adopt just like cheaper by the dozen (1 votes [1.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.82%

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#61 Breadstick

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:43 PM

why do you think preventing conception by wasting sperm is ok but abortion isn't
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#62 Buglamp

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Don't you wish we could all just murder our mistakes instead of accepting them, learning to move on with them, and dealing with the consequences for the rest of our lives?

There are negative consequences for the child as well. I can't pretend abortions aren't a sad affair or that parents are completely blameless and unborn children are nothing, but it's not as simple as just the parent dealing with the consequences. The child ends up with a parent who can't really take care of them. You can point to adoption, but of course there are more unwanted children than people looking to adopt already. The way I see it abortion ends a life, but forcing a child on an unready parent ruins at least two lives.

And what would you do to mothers who chose to abort even if it were illegal? Put them in prison? What good does that really do? Obviously abortions would still happen even if they weren't legal.

#63 Shipupi

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

Your stance is pretty clear now.

A four year old is less developed than I am. Does that make it OK to murder them? IT'S STILL A HUMAN LIFE.

welp classic vael
I never said anything like that, just trying to make you think
I see that's just not possible
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#64 Andon

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

I'll try to make my point more clear... I believe morals and ethical values are absolute. Some people might say, "It's ok to murder someone if they steal your money." Others would say, "It's not OK to murder someone if they steal your money."

One of those stances is right, the other is wrong. It's not right for you and wrong for them, or vice versa. Some may THINK otherwise, but that doesn't make them right.

When it comes to opinions, you cant say who is right or wrong. Especialy not when you say "you are right caus thats my opinion".
Your example is also quite extreme.
Lets say: When someone steals your money, should he be punished or just give it back? Should he be put in Jail or pay a fine?
There is NO right or wrong point there. And yes there are even some people who think he should die because he is a harm to society and there are also people who think he can keep the money because the victim did not watch his possessions.

#65 AwesoMegAmazing

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:52 PM

View PostShipupi, on 07 May 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

welp classic vael
I never said anything like that, just trying to make you think
I see that's just not possible

Trying to make me think? I've thought long and hard about abortion, and I've come to my conclusion and formed my opinions about it. Opinions that will never change because they're based on facts.

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

I eat McDonalds every day

View PostDuckers, on 12 June 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Can't ever really go wrong with McDonalds.

View PostDuckers, on 08 August 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

Get that girl a Happy Meal and she will never leave you.

#66 Breadstick

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

Opinions that will never change because they're based on facts.

lol god dammit

why do i even bother
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#67 AwesoMegAmazing

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostBreadstick, on 07 May 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

why do you think preventing conception by wasting sperm is ok but abortion isn't

Because spilling your sperm on the ground isn't procreation.

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

I eat McDonalds every day

View PostDuckers, on 12 June 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Can't ever really go wrong with McDonalds.

View PostDuckers, on 08 August 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

Get that girl a Happy Meal and she will never leave you.

#68 Breadstick

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:54 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Because spilling your sperm on the ground isn't procreation.

but it could be, until you killed it

you fucking murderer
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#69 AwesoMegAmazing

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:56 PM

View PostBuglamp, on 07 May 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

Obviously abortions would still happen even if they weren't legal.

So nothing should be illegal?

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

I eat McDonalds every day

View PostDuckers, on 12 June 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Can't ever really go wrong with McDonalds.

View PostDuckers, on 08 August 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

Get that girl a Happy Meal and she will never leave you.

#70 AwesoMegAmazing

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:56 PM

View PostBreadstick, on 07 May 2012 - 09:54 PM, said:

but it could be, until you killed it

you fucking murderer

Opponent has resorted to trolling. Debate successful.

EDIT: Oh and for the record, that post made me laugh pretty hard. +rep

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

I eat McDonalds every day

View PostDuckers, on 12 June 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Can't ever really go wrong with McDonalds.

View PostDuckers, on 08 August 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

Get that girl a Happy Meal and she will never leave you.

#71 Breadstick

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

Opponent has resorted to trolling. Debate successful.

? how is it different
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#72 Andon

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

So nothing should be illegal?

not when it comes to choices over your own body

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:57 PM

this guy has an obvious case of cunt-syndrome

only thing to cure it is a bullet in the head

#74 Shipupi

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:59 PM

View Postneilsback, on 07 May 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

this guy has an obvious case of cunt-syndrome

only thing to cure it is a bullet in the head
you're as stupid as him
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#75 AwesoMegAmazing

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:59 PM

View PostBreadstick, on 07 May 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

? how is it different

Were you seriously serious? If so...

It's different because you're preventing a life from beginning in the first place. After conception it is a life.

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

I eat McDonalds every day

View PostDuckers, on 12 June 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

Can't ever really go wrong with McDonalds.

View PostDuckers, on 08 August 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:

Get that girl a Happy Meal and she will never leave you.

#76 Shipupi

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:01 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Were you seriously serious? If so...

It's different because you're preventing a life from beginning in the first place. After conception it is a life.

I guess you mean a person, sex cells are alive
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#77 Breadstick

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:02 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Were you seriously serious? If so...

It's different because you're preventing a life from beginning in the first place. After conception it is a life.

sperm is alive bro

but not anymore because you wasted it and it died

could've been a human, but now it's nothing
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#78 Buglamp

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:12 PM

View PostAwesoMegAmazing, on 07 May 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

So nothing should be illegal?

Legality doesn't mean much if can't enforce a law or if there's no significant repercussion. What would you suggest we do with women who get illegal abortions? Prison? Just ruins their life without any benefit to anyone else - abortion is unlike murder because it's not like the woman is an actual threat to people who aren't developing inside her body. Fines? They're probably already poor.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

View PostShipupi, on 07 May 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

you're as stupid as him


have fun wasting ur time trying to prove yourself online with your opinion nobody cares about

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:16 PM

Every envenom thread gets derailed into side arguments

at least its [HOT] though




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