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[Pawzz]

http://blue.mmo-cham...-mop-3v3-arena/

There have been many players trying to get a response from Blizzard by trying to make a wall of text about PvP and apparently someone has succeded.
Hope it won't stop here. Some of the points the OP listed are pretty obvious for most top players, as they have been requested for the last few years now, but I hope Blizzard actually does something about them now. (e.g. instant ccs, instant heals etc)

[Z4muZ]

trolololz, on 04 April 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

too bad, developpers don't read forum and don't care about their players.

how can you edit a post and leave developpers untouched

[Skyn]

Wouldn't call it an "answer"...

aka Random PvP whiner x posts wall of text about how game is broken and how to fix it and Blizzard employee says "Wow! This was really well written, keep it up!"

[Pawzz]

Skyn, on 04 April 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Wouldn't call it an "answer"...

aka Random PvP whiner x posts wall of text about how game is broken and how to fix it and Blizzard employee says "Wow! This was really well written, keep it up!"

Well at least they left a comment, don't think Braindeadly received one when he posted a wall of text. or the other 10 AJ members that have tried.

[GLopez]

My walls of text always led to fixes.  

[yarubi]

hello lopez, how are you?

[Skyn]

Pawzz, on 04 April 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Well at least they left a comment, don't think Braindeadly received one when he posted a wall of text. or the other 10 AJ members that have tried.

Yeah, but its not really better than nothing... it's just their PR team trying to draw attention to the fact that they acknowledge these types of posts, and to avoid the fact that they really aren't doing anything about it.

The simple fact that remains is that roughly 10% of the WoW player community focus on Arena PvP, and Blizzard don't have the time or resources, nor would it be economically responsible to accurately read, conceptualize, and fix these kinds of issues.

WoW will forever be a casual-player catered game, as the other 90% aren't competitive Arena PvPers. It's much easier for Blizz to focus on keeping that 90% happy, not our 10% playing this game to earn more money.

I don't really have an opinion on this issue, Blizzard wants to keep making money, and faggots still want to slay dragons 9/10 times rather than other players, not much we can do about it.

Keep up the good fight though, junkie brethren.

[Pawzz]

As if it were hard to balance wow... im sure there are hundreds of good pvpers willing to help blizzard for free, so money is not an excuse. There are so many good ideas, its really more that they dont care, than they dont have the ressources.

[zephah]

I'm 99% sure Reckful's wall of text led to today's Glyph of Blind.

[Skyn]

Pawzz, on 04 April 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

As if it were hard to balance wow... im sure there are hundreds of good pvpers willing to help blizzard for free, so money is not an excuse. There are so many good ideads, its really more that they dont care, than they dont have the ressources.

Do you have any idea how complex the game mechanics of WoW are now? You try balancing 10 classes simultaneously over the course of a number of expansions/patches. The only way i'd be happy with class balance would be if Blizzard reverted to an earlier state of the game, such as BC. Blizz needs to stop adding content and shit and needs to simplify, which is something I hope they will successfully do with the talent redesign in Mists. I was pretty excited for the item and number squish, but alas, they won't go through with it because they suck.

But aside from that, Blizz did just lose a shitload of subs this year, as well as cut back on a few employees... they are struggling, and I doubt its very high on their agenda to cater to the 10% of the players. Although they do have a ridiculous amount of feedback from their players, they still have to test and implement these ideas and integrate changes. They always have to consider PvP and PvE, so when it comes to a major class change, they will usually make 100% sure it keeps PvE class balance fair first, which makes Hybrids and shit like that never truly balanced in PvP, as you can't make their role in PvE translate well into PvP (Ret pallies, ferals, eles, etc).

Idk man, maybe i'm just being a pessimist, but I don't think Arena PvP will ever be reasonably balanced if WoW continues to add patches and expansions (which they will).

[Pawzz]

What I meant to say was, you dont have to perfectly balance wow pvp (no thats really hard/impossible), but simple things like, nerfing instants ccs and healing done, nerfing specific classes, nerfing a few broken spells, removing pve gear.

That probably takes like an afternoon to do. After they have done those things, they can still reevaluate and see if it helped.

They should just listen to the god damn community (aka good pvpers).

[Skyn]

Yeah, I agree that the game needs some pretty obvious changes like that haha

Blizz should sanction someone to troll AJ, as anyone who can post on here has a pretty valid opinion on PvP (most of the time...)

[Mirionx]

Pawzz, on 04 April 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Well at least they left a comment, don't think Braindeadly received one when he posted a wall of text. or the other 10 AJ members that have tried.

Diffrence is that EU forums actually has an active blueposter on the forums, theres a few of us who post constructive posts on the forums.

[Pawzz]

Skyn, on 04 April 2012 - 08:41 PM, said:

Yeah, I agree that the game needs some pretty obvious changes like that haha

Blizz should sanction someone to troll AJ, as anyone who can post on here has a pretty valid opinion on PvP (most of the time...)

Indeed, I really dont think it would take too much time for 1 blizz dev to read aj for 20minutes a day.

[Clarkgable]

Gladiator from S1 to S7 including 3 R1 titles. That was the only fun part since he does not and yes ive played with him.

ppl today...

Edited by Nonamebro, 04 April 2012 - 09:47 PM.

[Braindance]

Pawzz, on 04 April 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

http://blue.mmo-cham...-mop-3v3-arena/

There have been many players trying to get a response from Blizzard by trying to make a wall of text about PvP and apparently someone has succeded.
Hope it won't stop here. Some of the points the OP listed are pretty obvious for most top players, as they have been requested for the last few years now, but I hope Blizzard actually does something about them now. (e.g. instant ccs, instant heals etc)

I have been doing the same for half a decade on the official forums, having spent countless hours of contemplation and editing in order to make my posts look appealing both to the eye and the "creative soul" of any developer that could be possibly be reading what I had written . Blizzard never used any of the countless ideas I have posted - on the contrary, it seems Bioware showed more interest in my ideas like taunts in pvp reducing dmg done by players if they are not attacking you by fixed amount, skills working like soul link but based on player action, and interactive skills with different effects in pvp and pve. For your own mental health hope for the best, but expect the worst (which I have the utmost confidence that will given Blizzard's actions in the past), and just adapt to the game the way it is right now. Neither resilience nor MoP nor W/EnextExpIs will fix what is broken, since what is broken is fun for the majority, and you don't belong in the majority.

"Cynicism is sanity"

[GLopez]

yarubi, on 04 April 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

hello lopez, how are you?

Fabulous, and you?

[Braindance]

GLopez, on 05 April 2012 - 01:06 AM, said:

Fabulous, and you?

Ofc you are  

[phishy]

it takes them months to fix blatant imbalances. why do we suddenly assume they will start caring now? its a pve game

[Shrouds]

This game has never been balanced and never will, I don't care about it be exactly balanced as long as it's FUN. They need to add more original content. Arena is old and stale, but the clear problem is that you can never balance it and please everyone. Some seasons are obv pretty good, but like add something different : /