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#1 Mackabre

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:30 PM

For us people in the US, we've been getting used to playing live since online poker has been banned. I've read this article recently: http://forumserver.t...nkroll-1160302/ and was wondering what 1/2(3) or 2/5 players think about it. As I play mainly 1/3 with my BR, I took a shot at the 2/5 last night and did alright.

I was wondering if anyone has had similar thoughts about it or is it just plain bad BR management to even think/do it.

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#2 Boness

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

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#3 stcolbert

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:03 PM

fucking pingponging dicks

#4 Mackabre

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:53 PM

Hey this is poker thread not Volleyball cleave thread! ok!

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#5 Vexo

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 05:27 AM

I wouldn't feel comfortable moving up to 2/5 with only a $2500 bankroll tbh

#6 Mackabre

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:38 AM

I don't think they play it at as their regular game. Rather, they play the 1/2(3) and when they notice people in the 2/5 that they are comfortably know they can beat, they swap games. Hence the "taking a shot" kind of mentality.

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#7 Djandawg

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:06 AM

You are expected to go broke when you play games where you can afford only a few buy ins. You are supposed to play higher when you are comfortably beating a level but if that's the case why do you have a 8 buy-in roll? I assume you are trying to build a quick roll.
When you move up to 2/5 live, people suddenly don't become beasts. They are similar to 1/3 opponents. So playing with a 5 buy-in roll instead of 8 won't kill you since you are trying to win quickly while being aware of the risk of ruin.

#8 P1LL

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:35 PM

Proper bank roll management is meant for you to never go broke (assuming you are a winning player).

I know for online cash 20-40 buy ins is essential.

As for live, I feel you can get away with 10-20 if you are willing to take shots and move up.

I am a bankroll nit so I still play 1/2 live with a 3-4k br.

#9 Mackabre

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:33 AM

I think a big thing that plays into it is the rake at 1/3 and how buyins work. I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but at my cardroom/casinos the 1/3 game is capped at $300 buy in and minimum of $40, whereas in the 2/5 it's min $200 and table max cap.
If I ever get stuck in the 1/3 game, even 1-1.5 buyins it gets progressively harder to get unstuck and the fact that the idiots that buy in for $40-$60 basically ship preflop or on the flop because they don't have enough for multiple streets of betting, feels like I'm not even playing poker at times.  <_<

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#10 Kelarm

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 02:33 AM

He presents a compelling argument but I still disagree.  Probably because I am a life-nit (and huge bankroll nit).  As far as I'm concerned, you should not attempt to move to the next level until you are comfortably beating your current level.  I think you'd be hard-pressed to say you are comfortably beating your level when you only have 10-15 BI.  20-30 and you MIGHT be beating it.  You might also be on an upswing.  Back when we could play online, I used to need at LEAST 35 BI, sometimes even 40 before I felt that I could say I beat the level.

But like I said, I'm a huge BR nit and I'm sure I probably cheated myself out of some winnings by moving up so slow.  But that was the only way I could play my A game, and at least I'd never bust.

Edited by Kelarm, 22 April 2012 - 02:39 AM.

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#11 P1LL

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:45 AM

I wouldn't recommend sampling your winrate over BI's; Instead, over how many hands you have played. As said, you could be on an upswing and assume you are killing it when you are really only running good with a small sample of hands/hours.

For online, I know 300k hands is an accurate sample size to determine ones winrate. As for Live, I believe 400 hours is a decent sample size. Live session logs should be consistent with hours and win/loses for winrate to be as accurate as possible.

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