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#1 Tomlordmuscle

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:58 PM

I don't have Cunning of the Cruel, yet. But I am wondering if it would even be worth grinding. Should I grind out reg Cunning of the Cruel or keep my Cata on use?
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:42 PM

Do you want to use an amazingly good (extremely overpowered) trinket.

Or not.

Difficult decision.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:44 PM

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
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After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

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For all of you casters that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:47 PM

View PostShadowtwist, on 08 February 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
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After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

Posted Image

For all of you casters that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear
Very accurate and insightful information here..

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:47 PM

View PostShadowtwist, on 08 February 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
Posted Image

After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

Posted Image

For all of you casters that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear
Whoever made the math is a scrub, pi shouldn't be in italic.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 08:58 PM

just do LFR and see if it drops
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:01 PM

Damn that graph has been like a reputation herpes, just steal it and get your free herpes

#8 yarubi

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:52 PM

This graph is getting old...

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:01 PM

View PostShadowtwist, on 08 February 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
Posted Image

After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

Posted Image

For all of you casters that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear

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#10 Klonken

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:03 PM

View Postyarubi, on 08 February 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

This graph is getting old...

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never gets old tho!

#11 Celaurthor

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:41 PM

View PostKlonken, on 08 February 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

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never gets old tho!
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#12 Raystigz

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:46 PM

View PostShadowtwist, on 08 February 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
Posted Image

After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

Posted Image

For all of you casters that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear
http://www.arenajunk..._1#entry3611212 you fucking scum
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:55 PM

View PostShadowtwist, on 08 February 2012 - 08:44 PM, said:

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
Posted Image

After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

Posted Image

For all of you casters that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear

Thanks hawtstuffs didnt know you had a mage eu

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:58 PM

Spoiler
Chill with the brownnosing, the two people just copy pasted something not the end of the world.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:15 AM

You guys act as if you've never seen math outside of high school. Actually that might be high school.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:26 AM

It's calculus.  I'm not sure what that specifically is, though,  but I'm pretty sure it involves the derivative of u with respect to t.

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The #1 sign that your thread was unnecessary is if the you can copy+paste the thread title in to google, hit 'I'm feeling lucky', and get your answer

#17 Eowynnz

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 09:24 AM

View PostPawzz, on 09 February 2012 - 01:15 AM, said:

You guys act as if you've never seen math outside of high school. Actually that might be high school.
It is high school indeed.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:06 PM

da graph's not even a function  B)




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