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#21 Nycto

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 09:09 AM

Ye, rogues are broken with out vial...
In other news, 42k FFB;30K+ icelances; 50k mindblasts; 60k ele shaman earth shock or whatever;40k Temp ver; are NOT broken. At all.


You are correct, rogues are in a perfectly acceptable state in the game when they do not have a vial. Their damage is equal to any other mele classes, with higher burst, their lockdown is single handedly the best in game, aswell as they are pretty hard to kill (unless they go rambo mode or your team also has a rogue). Also their mobility out does any other classes, but yes, you are correct, mindblast and templars verdict with wings are more broken than rogues at this current time.
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#22 charles34534534

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:57 PM

No, you get low to like lets say 8k hp. He executes you for 50k , cheat death procs reduces the dmg of it by 80% and you still get 10k dmg 2k over kill... Cya dead.


No, instead of dying you don't get any damage from the killing blow, and get a debuff preventing damage.
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#23 sneakysnipe

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 06:09 PM

No, instead of dying you don't get any damage from the killing blow, and get a debuff preventing damage.

brings you down to 10% hp instead of killing you*
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#24 Pradafiend

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:22 AM

Ye, rogues are broken with out vial...
In other news, 42k FFB;30K+ icelances; 50k mindblasts; 60k ele shaman earth shock or whatever;40k Temp ver; are NOT broken. At all.


rofl look at this kid in denial
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#25 toheja88

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 10:50 AM

No, instead of dying you don't get any damage from the killing blow, and get a debuff preventing damage.


I don't know if you are trolling or just dumb.
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#26 Pradafiend

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:04 AM

I don't know if you are trolling or just dumb.


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#27 Dylon187

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:19 PM

I fucking hate it when cheat death doesn't proc and you just die instantly
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#28 Zeiyo

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:34 PM

Ye, rogues are broken with out vial...
In other news, 42k FFB;30K+ icelances; 50k mindblasts; 60k ele shaman earth shock or whatever;40k Temp ver; are NOT broken. At all.


damage isnt everything, rogues have insane burst, survivability and control, but atleast when you face rls you have a chance to turn the game around, unlike rmp just get oneshot or later in the game deep'd without blanket for there icelance spam O_O
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#29 Malevolént

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:14 PM

No, you get low to like lets say 8k hp. He executes you for 50k , cheat death procs reduces the dmg of it by 80% and you still get 10k dmg 2k over kill... Cya dead.

So you don't know how one of your main class' core mechanics works?

Rofl :rogue:
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#30 Saikx

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:35 PM

So you don't know how one of your main class' core mechanics works?

Rofl :rogue:


Its always the inbred retards that try to flame me, you should already know :<

btw Rofl :rogue:
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#31 Deliriumz

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:41 PM

No, you get low to like lets say 8k hp. He executes you for 50k , cheat death procs reduces the dmg of it by 80% and you still get 10k dmg 2k over kill... Cya dead.


Woah... Really scary that this guy has access to post in the junkies forum.. How do you not even know how cheat death works as a glad rogue?? holy shet.
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#32 zanyu

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:45 PM

I don't know if you are trolling or just dumb.


We all wonder the same about you.

You should read the other comments.
In case you missed the link before explaining what cheat death does. Here it is again.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=31230
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Since you had a hard time the first time pinpointing what everyone was talking about cheat death. I'll break it down:

You have a 100% chance that an attack which would otherwise kill you will instead reduce you to 10% of your maximum health.

YOU DON'T DIE.

In addition, all damage taken will be reduced by 80% for 3 sec. This effect cannot occur more than once per 90 seconds.

DAMAGE REDUCTION.



Cheat death:

  • Absorb killing blow.
  • Drop down to 10% hp.
  • Gain 80% damage reduction.


I hope this clears up what one of your talents does good sir.
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#33 Solleks

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:06 AM

Cheat death:

  • Absorb killing blow.
  • Drop down to 10% hp.
  • Gain 80% damage reduction.


Xroguex has 150,000 health
Xmagex has 5,000,950 mastery

Xmagex's Ice lance hits xRoguex for 149,999
Xmagex's Ice lance hits xroguex for X (anything ) and Cheat death procs, and rogue dies anyway.

This happens frequently when a rogue is damaged to anything below 10% of their health -before- cheat death procs; cheat will proc and rogue will die anyway, same global. Quite annoying.
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#34 Deliriumz

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 01:43 PM

Xroguex has 150,000 health
Xmagex has 5,000,950 mastery

Xmagex's Ice lance hits xRoguex for 149,999
Xmagex's Ice lance hits xroguex for X (anything ) and Cheat death procs, and rogue dies anyway.

This happens frequently when a rogue is damaged to anything below 10% of their health -before- cheat death procs; cheat will proc and rogue will die anyway, same global. Quite annoying.


Hmm... I've sw:death'd plenty of rogues at 3% and never seen one just die without cheat death proc'ing...
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#35 Vadren

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:31 AM

But would RLS have won if 3dps was allowed in the tournament?
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:42 PM

But would RLS have won if 3dps was allowed in the tournament?


Omg counter? is this possible wtf??? Buff rogues
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#37 Vadren

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:25 PM

Omg counter? is this possible wtf??? Buff rogues


... Could 3dps win the tournament? I don't know. Maybe rmp beats it (doubt it), or PHD? I know RLS usually doesn't and shadow play doesn't.

Anyway rogues are not only on most of the top teams, but their counters as well.
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#38 Deliriumz

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:25 PM

... Could 3dps win the tournament? I don't know. Maybe rmp beats it (doubt it), or PHD? I know RLS usually doesn't and shadow play doesn't.

Anyway rogues are not only on most of the top teams, but their counters as well.


Players were allowed to have a 2nd class as long as they were the one playing it. example, EG switching to lock/rogue/pall for fun. If they were to que into a triple dps, every team would just que a comp that counters trip dps IMO. As shadowplay, just play spriest/ret/rsham, or swap your rsham for a holy pally and it shouldn't be hard to win. Most of the players are good at multicomping with several classes anyway
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#39 Champ

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:32 AM

Triple dps isn't allowed in NAO bros
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#40 droolingmoron

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 01:58 AM

Hmm... I've sw:death'd plenty of rogues at 3% and never seen one just die without cheat death proc'ing...

clearly you haven't been paying much attention to this issue
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