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#1 GhostBustas

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:25 AM

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http://www.wowhead.com/item=77980

I'd like to start a discussion on how this trinket Cunning of the Cruel is unbelievably bad.

Cunning of the Cruel is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with INT on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Cunning of the Cruel

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Lightning Capacitor:
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After number crunching, research shows Cunning of the Cruel is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

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For all of you shadow priests that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77971 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=28785 <-which is ironically better than Cunning of the Cruel because it scales so well with gear

#2 Pradafiend

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:26 AM

just won it today was gonna use it till I read this, thanks ghostbustas! vendoring it

Edited by Magikarps, 11 January 2012 - 01:59 AM.


#3 mdnorth

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:26 AM

NEED BUFFS DUDE

#4 Filovirus

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:29 AM

rofl

#5 Deeklol

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:33 AM

i just got one today DONT TROLL ME PLZ
Hey, add me on LoL :)

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#6 Mity

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:49 AM

the code has been cracked
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#7 JayS

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:54 AM

i think you're right

Edited by JayS, 11 January 2012 - 01:57 AM.


#8 ss2b24

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:57 AM

i r confused

#9 P1LL

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 01:59 AM

sooo Int + haste proc trinket > Cunning? If so, I feel much better not winning cunning yesterday in LFR =)

#10 Hevan

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:02 AM

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#11 Zigenz

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:21 AM

my fucking god

Edited by Zigenz, 11 January 2012 - 02:21 AM.

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#12 quikkz

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:24 AM

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#13 Vengeance

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:25 AM

http://www.wowhead.com/item=77979

I'd like to start a discussion on how this trinket Vial of Shadows is unbelievably bad.

Vial of Shadows is extremely bad and unreliable for a couple of reasons.

  • It doesn't scale correctly with gear, it's basically the equivalent of a quest item with AGI on it
  • The trinket is only MEDIOCORE if its heroic and you have to spend half your life trying to get it with 24 other people who spend half their lives doing the same thing

I've started to do some number crunching with a few of my buddies we came up with these numbers after testing Vial of Shadows

This chart clearly shows it's doing less damage than Bandit's Insignia:
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After number crunching, research shows Vial of Shadows is not scaling correctly, which is clearly shown by this equation

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For all of you rogues that are picking this trinket up, I advise getting http://www.wowhead.com/item=77973 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=40371 <-which is ironically better than Vial of Shadows because it scales so well with gear

Edited by Vengeance, 11 January 2012 - 02:29 AM.


#14 sulphuric

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:32 AM

Good post Hawtstuffs.

#15 Shearcookie

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:33 AM

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:39 AM

View PostP1LL, on 11 January 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:

sooo Int + haste proc trinket > Cunning? If so, I feel much better not winning cunning yesterday in LFR =)

not sure if serious

#17 Hotted

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:46 AM

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#18 Qulcark07

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:55 AM

Sticking to cunning, fuck that.

#19 Pradafiend

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 03:04 AM

View PostQulcark07, on 11 January 2012 - 02:55 AM, said:

Sticking to cunning, fuck that.

you'll just be gimping yourself, it's all there in the math

#20 GhostBustas

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Posted 11 January 2012 - 03:09 AM

View PostHollowlithic, on 11 January 2012 - 02:32 AM, said:

Good post Hawtstuffs.
thank you, not many people put the time into figuring out what's best in this game




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