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#1 Hymne

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:20 PM

Hello folks,

I have 3 characters, with different experience level.
I am starting to play again tonight, but I dont know which char I should play with...
I havent seen changes of these classes since May or something.

Mage, 2500+
Priest, 2500+ (disc)
Shaman, 2300+

What would you choose? And why?

Kindest Regards

#2 yysnake

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:37 PM

Mage is overpowered as always, huge shatters, they are kinda squishy if you're using too much of PvE hero gear, especially against Hunters and Ferals.

Priests are viable and very good, still susceptible to be trained and need massive peels, you won't see massive heals by the Priest, but many shields/damage reduction cooldowns and they are still one of the highest skill-capped healers around.

Enhancement Shaman is currently not very viable.
Elemental Shaman is semi-viable with comps like LSD (although, RDruids are shit atm), LSP or the caster burst cleave Shadow Priest/Elemental/healer, but the latter one is just for fun.
Restoration Shaman is currently the best healer around, huge heals, great bonuses from talents, two major life-saving cooldowns (Nature's Swiftness and Spirit Link Totem), the new Tremor Totem is extremely noob friendly at the moment, it has a 1min cooldown and 5? sec duration, it can be used while feared/mind controlled and it removes fear from your entire group, and since Warlocks are gods as always, Shamans are always great. However, they are susceptible to swaps against comps such as MLS and maybe some melee cleaves. But Shamans mostly play MLS, RLS, or the cata fotm lock/shaman/x, anything works basically.

But, if you're a 2.5k disc, you're a Glad Resto Shaman now.

EDIT: Although, regarding changes, these are some off top of my head:
Mage:
- Water Elemental turns invisible as well.
- Ice Barrier absorbs more damage now.
- Frost Armor reduces physical damage by percentage instead of giving armor.
- Deep Freeze DRs with Ring of Frost
- Shattered Barrier (I believe is the talent's name) is no longer usable.

Priest:
- No major changes whatsoever, Blizzard stated that Fear/Root/Nova effects would break after a certain damage even if the target is shielded, but this hasn't seen the light of the day.
- You can SW:D a Polymorph/Blind/Repentance etc, without having to cancel your shields now.
- Offensive dispel only removes 1 buff, down from 2.

Shaman:
- Huge buffs in healing department, Riptide HoT buffed by 50%.
- Small nerf to Healing Surge.
- Water Shield gives a lot less mana from being hit, but gives more mana upon critical heals (afaik)
- Spirit Link Totem, 'nuff said. (not sure they had it before May)
- Wind Shear nerfed to 15 second CD, deserved (there is still a t2 talent in Elemental tree, but you are sacrificing a lot of utility to get it).
- Cleansing Waters nerfed (I believe it has a 6second inner CD now).
- Purge costs a shitload more mana.


I might have forgotten some, but those are the main ones I would say.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 08:39 PM

Rogue, just go rogue.

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 05:28 AM

If I wanted a comeback I'd scrape it off the roof of your mouth

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 05:51 AM

View PostHymne, on 17 December 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

Hello folks,

I have 3 characters, with different experience level.
I am starting to play again tonight, but I dont know which char I should play with...
I havent seen changes of these classes since May or something.

Mage, 2500+
Priest, 2500+ (disc)
Shaman, 2300+

What would you choose? And why?

Kindest Regards


mage cuz bgs > all

seriously. i have more fun and less stress killing fresh 85s in greens in bgs then trying to arena with bad partners

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 06:08 AM

just level a rogue

they are the DK S5 of S11
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#7 DethSlayr

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Posted 18 December 2011 - 08:00 AM

View PostGod, on 18 December 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

just level a rogue

they are the DK S5 of S11

Sigged.

on topic, sham is probably best because of how good their heals are.
but really since s11 is gonna be a pretty long season you should have time to gear out all of them... so might as well try em all right?  :lol:

View PostGod, on 18 December 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

just level a rogue

they are the DK S5 of S11
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#8 Ezzek

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 09:14 AM

Just play the class u like the most, all 3 are viable

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View PostGod, on 18 December 2011 - 06:08 AM, said:

just level a rogue

they are the DK S5 of S11
lol :D

thrudgel said:

lol i got gladiator and use s to backpedal all the time. Why make backing up more complex than in needs to be. Just because people make fun of you backpedalling, doesn't make them better players.
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#9 Jacquelol

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Posted 19 December 2011 - 09:22 AM

disc priest
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:53 AM

View PostJacquelol, on 19 December 2011 - 09:22 AM, said:

disc priest

^ This imo. Although Restoshamans are strong undoubtedly, I don't think that anyone here would disagree that Discs are still very good all-rounded healers - unquestionable versatility. Besides man, you really don't want to gouge your eyes out with the 'Imp. GWolf vs Imp. Shear' debate, trust me.

All said and done Mages are still dons, fire is also relatively viable among certain setups too with the release of 4.3 and frost still most certainly is.

Shaman DPS wise you haven't got much. I'm hearing talking of an Enhancement comeback along the lines of Feral/Enh/Disc and Warr/Enh/Disc and Jahmillz is definately getting the best out of Enhancement, but that's an exceptional case - it still isn't fantastic. I play Ele myself and i did all of last season, if you wanna two shot people in bgs roll ele and if you're good and you can time your burst you'll do it in arena as well. But like an above post says, Ele is only viable with an Affli lock, which kinda limits you.

Hope this helps mate, welcome back!
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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:57 AM

Disc Priest cus its fun, rather then whats OP or FOTM
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#12 Kruegér

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 11:27 AM

View PostDougzy, on 18 December 2011 - 05:28 AM, said:

If I wanted a comeback I'd scrape it off the roof of your mouth

lololol
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#13 Akademic

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 05:03 PM

mage

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 10:03 PM

something that has to do with rls or rmp :PPP
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:33 PM

View PostYsmerion, on 17 December 2011 - 08:37 PM, said:


Enhancement Shaman is currently not very viable.

wtf man

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:39 PM

View PostMelior, on 24 December 2011 - 04:33 PM, said:

wtf man

Maybe it is with the new season, but we still destroyed the Beastcleaves and DK/Enha/healer when we were pushing for top 10 in BG in the first week.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:46 PM

haha i haven't played season 11 yet. i ran ret/enh/holypaly, ret/enh/disc, and fire/enh/disc to 2200+ last season. mediocre, but those are random comps that i had success with. depends on what your definition of viable is. and several enhancers got glad in s10

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:50 PM

View PostMelior, on 24 December 2011 - 04:46 PM, said:

haha i haven't played season 11 yet. i ran ret/enh/holypaly, ret/enh/disc, and fire/enh/disc to 2200+ last season. mediocre, but those are random comps that i had success with. depends on what your definition of viable is. and several enhancers got glad in s10

Hence why I said "not very viable", it is viable to some extent, but you'd be better off playing some other spec.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:55 PM

word, but i think it's still worth mentioning.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:47 PM

View PostHyuru, on 17 December 2011 - 08:39 PM, said:

Rogue, just go rogue.





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