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#1 GLopez

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:07 AM

I think so. If you do, support this thread: http://us.battle.net...opic/3657606005.

The system effectively screws over everyone except hardcore raiders and blacksmiths. It's so bad.

It wouldn't be so bad if the gems could drop off the raid finder, but they don't drop there at all.

Edited by GLopez, 30 November 2011 - 02:11 AM.


#2 RollinSix

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:13 AM

'new' 'system'


pve players having stat advantage in pvp is just as old as the game, buddy

#3 GLopez

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:26 AM

View PostRollinSix, on 30 November 2011 - 02:13 AM, said:

'new' 'system'

pve players having stat advantage in pvp is just as old as the game, buddy
Thanks for the heads-up, but that has almost nothing to do with this thread.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:35 AM

lopez thread


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:37 AM

what is really dumb is that this new epic gem system nerfs the jc profession bonus. i dont understand why they didnt buff the jc gems to make up for this.

#6 GLopez

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:42 AM

View Postbrosearch, on 30 November 2011 - 02:37 AM, said:

what is really dumb is that this new epic gem system nerfs the jc profession bonus. i dont understand why they didnt buff the jc gems to make up for this.
This is the part that aggravates me the most. At first it won't be a real loss for jewelcrafters because almost no one will have epic gems. But after a couple of months everyone is going to have them and jewelcrafters will get the shaft.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:42 AM

Ugh, who cares. Legendaries in PVP is a much worse idea. This is several orders of magnitude less impactful. Yeah yeah, someone with full epic gems will have better stats than the commonfolk PVPers -- but the amount of time required will be substantial. Plus, regemming seems to happen more in PVP depending on respecs/midseason patches, which wouldn't work well with this system any way.

Not to mention the fact that since these epic gems are apparently pretty rare, no PVE'er is going to put them on PVP gear. Granted there might be the odd PVPer who feels the need to raid just for the gems; if you feel you need them to be competitive in PVP then I really just feel sorry for you.

Look, I'm with you on the fact that Blizzard neglects the PVP aspect of the game, and yes, it is annoying -- but come on. Epic gems, really? There have been far worse things.

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we have to switch to them making the decision to pop reck or not to pop reck

#8 GLopez

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:51 AM

No one is saying there haven't been worse ideas. It's just this system is bad and could be easily reworked into something much better.

The epic gems might be rare now, but I think they will be fairly common in a few months. This will screw jewelcrafters and PVPers over.

Edited by GLopez, 30 November 2011 - 02:51 AM.


#9 ROKMODE

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:53 AM

I really respect these players who continuously try to do these things for the benefit of the community, regardless of blizzards complete disregard for pvp. It's cool to see that even though the arena community is suffering, there are still players who care enough to try to have a voice.
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 02:57 AM

View PostCtuhlu, on 30 November 2011 - 02:42 AM, said:

Ugh, who cares. Legendaries in PVP is a much worse idea. This is several orders of magnitude less impactful. Yeah yeah, someone with full epic gems will have better stats than the commonfolk PVPers -- but the amount of time required will be substantial. Plus, regemming seems to happen more in PVP depending on respecs/midseason patches, which wouldn't work well with this system any way.

Not to mention the fact that since these epic gems are apparently pretty rare, no PVE'er is going to put them on PVP gear. Granted there might be the odd PVPer who feels the need to raid just for the gems; if you feel you need them to be competitive in PVP then I really just feel sorry for you.

Look, I'm with you on the fact that Blizzard neglects the PVP aspect of the game, and yes, it is annoying -- but come on. Epic gems, really? There have been far worse things.

i know you mean warlocks.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:07 AM

View Postbrosearch, on 30 November 2011 - 02:57 AM, said:

i know you mean warlocks.
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#12 Raystigz

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:22 AM

2nd worst, first was not resetting the ladder after nerfing mmr
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 03:42 AM

I made this thread months ago

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:06 AM

I still have no idea how to obtain these gems

nvm just got a green epic gem, fml
no shit this system is retarded

Edited by Kelberot, 30 November 2011 - 04:09 AM.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:10 AM

View Postkravnos, on 30 November 2011 - 03:42 AM, said:

I made this thread months ago
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#16 GLopez

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:15 AM

View PostKelberot, on 30 November 2011 - 04:06 AM, said:

I still have no idea how to obtain these gems

nvm just got a green epic gem, fml
no shit this system is retarded
Yeah. Even as a raider it pisses me off.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 04:15 AM

View Postbrosearch, on 30 November 2011 - 02:57 AM, said:

i know you mean warlocks.

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we have to switch to them making the decision to pop reck or not to pop reck

#18 Shawir

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 05:03 AM

back in wotlk when they released those gems im pretty sure they buffed every profs

why not doing that again?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 05:15 AM

I'll copy/paste my post in the forum thread just so more pvp oriented people will see it...

This is a disaster for the higher level pvp players. I raided from vanilla all the way until ICC, but I no longer have the time or patience for raiding.

In general, pvp gear is homogenized. The top players get it at roughly the same pace, there's very little luck involved, and gems and enchants are generally the same on everyone. Therefore, the only difference between people this season will be epic gems or lack thereof. It may seem like a small difference, but in high end pvp and mirror matches every little point counts. PVE'ers will have an intrinsic benefit over pvp'ers... and this isn't like pve gear, where the player is taking a penalty (losing resilience) in order to have the upgraded stats. This is a flat out upgrade. When everyone is wearing the same gear, small stat differences are magnified. These epic gems are going to end up forcing pvpers to pve again, something no one wants.

Please, take a look at this. My suggestion: make the epic gems like JC gems, and limit them to something like 3. This helps the market saturate faster, and simultaneously solves the problem of JC being worse and BS being better now. Unless ALL your gems are epic, BS isn't worse than it was and JC isn't better.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 07:53 AM

is the gems bop or something? or what's the problem?




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