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#41 aiba

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 06:06 PM

get a healer that has dispel bound, mages have 0 dispel protection

If you are talking MLS, welp UA.

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#42 optimize

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 08:49 AM

what made warriors fun in the past? Feels like warriors are complaining about being boring more than anything


Stance dancing (been a million years) for shield wall, for reck, etc. Only time you leave Battle is to disarm, turtle, or intervene
Reflecting clutch shit, more then every 25 seconds (shatters, cyclones, hoj, death coil, 40k mind blasts, the list goes on)
Being able to stay on target (Charge + Intercept)
Being able to pull rogues+druids out of stealth (can't demo them out anymore)
Being able to make an impact when you reck and pop cds (not just see all your damage absorbed and or disarmed{bladestorm})
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#43 Manakuski

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Posted 16 August 2011 - 05:06 PM

I agree with the above poster. Also i'd like to add focus charge/intercept.
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#44 Powerslave

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 03:12 AM

Stance dancing (been a million years) for shield wall, for reck, etc. Only time you leave Battle is to disarm, turtle, or intervene
Reflecting clutch shit, more then every 25 seconds (shatters, cyclones, hoj, death coil, 40k mind blasts, the list goes on)
Being able to stay on target (Charge + Intercept)
Being able to pull rogues+druids out of stealth (can't demo them out anymore)
Being able to make an impact when you reck and pop cds (not just see all your damage absorbed and or disarmed{bladestorm})


i'd say what you said aswell

its really just basic things, such as the inability to fight someone without support (lol reflect nerf even though warriors were already bad at this) and ridiculous things like a rogue stealthing near you and you sitting there like a fucking dipshit cow unable to affect the row of the game

it's really terrible


also why does bladestorm hits for so fucking little damage still it amuses me
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Posted 17 August 2011 - 06:46 PM

t2 made matters worse http://www.arenastat...2600&mt=5&mg=20
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#46 Manakuski

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 03:37 AM

So, does the T2 weapon actually help at all? Anyone?
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Posted 21 August 2011 - 08:41 AM

So, does the T2 weapon actually help at all? Anyone?


As was obvious to every Warrior out there, which apparently ever non-Warrior was too stupid to realise.

T2 will do nothing, infact according too http://www.arenastat...2600&mt=5&mg=20 our representation has dropped (if very slightly) since T2.
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Posted 21 August 2011 - 08:52 AM

i'd say what you said aswell

its really just basic things, such as the inability to fight someone without support (lol reflect nerf even though warriors were already bad at this) and ridiculous things like a rogue stealthing near you and you sitting there like a fucking dipshit cow unable to affect the row of the game

it's really terrible


also why does bladestorm hits for so fucking little damage still it amuses me


Yeah it should be a guaranteed kill again.
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#49 Manakuski

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 12:57 PM

Not saying it should be a guaranteed kill, but it still does very low damage compared to any other class. Our damage is not really that high, since we can't keep up with our targets. I find myself tickling a healer outside recklesness + trinket which makes me really sad. Not being able to put any impact at all.
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Posted 21 August 2011 - 10:55 PM

Kinda relative, our damage is shit in arena, yet in rbg's i'm always right behind DK's. I'd almost bet that's why our damage hasn't been touched. How are Arms warriors in pve? I'm sure the common pve spec is still fury, but any warriors try to make arms work?
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#51 aiba

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:01 PM

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:15 PM

The fuck is up with getting Bladestorm disarmed and even if it goes through damage is laughable.

It's not worth more than a trinket atm, glad that I have my priest main :)!
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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:17 PM

Kinda relative, our damage is shit in arena, yet in rbg's i'm always right behind DK's. I'd almost bet that's why our damage hasn't been touched. How are Arms warriors in pve? I'm sure the common pve spec is still fury, but any warriors try to make arms work?

in pve arms is stellar at aoe but lacks in single target dps. There is a parse of an arms warrior doing around 37k on baleroc heroic(http://www.worldoflo...9014&e=9360#Enk) but he has the 397 rag mace and near bis gear for this raiding tier. Most, if not all warriors are fury for raiding currently.

Edited by Xonkk, 21 August 2011 - 11:18 PM.

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#54 Tfgreenacre_3240035

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:21 PM

Yeah it should be a guaranteed kill again.


Good contribution, +rep. I guess basic reading comprehension is a rare thing on AJ these days. Someone suggesting Bladestorm damage is low, must mean he wants it to be buffed to absurd-wotlk levels, right?

On topic, I've noticed a fairly decent damage increase from T2, although if you're playing warr / caster / healer, melee cleaves have become even more of a nightmare, and what little amount of utility we can offer is having such a small impact. As usual we're forced to spam damage and force them defensive to effectively peel, issue being, unlike last season, our damage is average at best now compared to most other melee.
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#55 Tfgreenacre_3240035

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:24 PM

The fuck is up with getting Bladestorm disarmed and even if it goes through damage is laughable.

It's not worth more than a trinket atm, glad that I have my priest main :)!


Pretty much only class i see Bladestorm being properly useful against is mages. Forcing a blink then leap > throwdown, spamming damage with recklessness up and storming once stun is over makes for some decent burst.
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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:30 PM

Pretty much only class i see Bladestorm being properly useful against is mages. Forcing a blink then leap > throwdown, spamming damage with recklessness up and storming once stun is over makes for some decent burst.


Storms still pretty effective if you're hitting 2 people and a pet, with ss/procs anyway.
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#57 Tfgreenacre_3240035

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Posted 21 August 2011 - 11:44 PM

Storms still pretty effective if you're hitting 2 people and a pet, with ss/procs anyway.


Just because the people you're bladestorming on are standing together for the damage, doesn't really justify the low single target damage. The fact it hits multiple target should be an added bonus, it shouldn't be the deciding factor on if a bladestorm is effective or not. Warlock pet kills are so "meh" anyway, granted mage pet deaths can have quite an impact on the game.
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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:15 AM

Instead of bickering back and forth why not just explain to people who don't play warrior why it's shit.

Compare it to other classes 31 point talents:

Feral Druids : 9/10 times when i hear a feral say he's popping serk, shit dies.
Boomkins : Starfall - Pretty retarted pressure all around.
Mages : Deep freeze - Need i say more?
Shadow Priests : Dispurse - Not as huge as deep freeze, but still saves your ass every 2 minutes
Rogues : Dance - Similar comparison is Warriors Reck, but every minute, in a bomb, while your healer's blinded.
Shaman(enhance) : Wolves - Pretty sick burst while they're up and they heal the shaman
Shaman (ele) : Earthquake - knock your healer off Blades Edge and insta gib someone


say i'm wrong?
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#59 Ralgog

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:31 AM

so, i assume all the 4-8 time glad warriors were obviously all just awful before and is even worse now.

Or they just can't find locks/ferals to carry them.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 10:33 AM

Instead of bickering back and forth why not just explain to people who don't play warrior why it's shit.


Because we have?
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